Nutrition has become as much of a taboo subject as religion and politics.

[Docd187123]

Well your friend dismissing your claim about fructose seemed central to the topic from what I thought but ok.

So you eat fructose, via fruit, in moderation is what I take from what you said? Isn't that what your friend told you that triggered this?

Back on topic, I hope, you do make a point. Nutrition is not only taboo but it's an extension of many ppl's OCD habits or what have you. In one hand you have people who eat junk food all day and on the other end you have the 'clean-tards' as I've affectionately come to see them referred to as that base their entire lives around their food. One processed potato chip? Heavens no. One slice of wedding cake on your wedding night? Are you fukking crazy, the sugar will make me fat and send me to an early grace or give me diabetes. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle.....that funny word moderation.

[jay94]

Well your friend dismissing your claim about fructose seemed central to the topic from what I thought but ok.

So you eat fructose, via fruit, in moderation is what I take from what you said? Isn't that what your friend told you that triggered this?

Back on topic, I hope, you do make a point. Nutrition is not only taboo but it's an extension of many ppl's OCD habits or what have you. In one hand you have people who eat junk food all day and on the other end you have the 'clean-tards' as I've affectionately come to see them referred to as that base their entire lives around their food. One processed potato chip? Heavens no. One slice of wedding cake on your wedding night? Are you fukking crazy, the sugar will make me fat and send me to an early grace or give me diabetes. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle.....that funny word moderation.

Well, you see, I used to be the kind of guy who would eat anything as long it would fit his target caloric intake. But after reading all the stuff that I have on simple carbs and LDL fats, I'm no longer a believer that a calorie is just a calorie. It IS mostly about caloric intake, but a lot of people go way beyond their caloric intake, and IMO that has to do with what is in some of these calories that they eat.

[Docd187123]

Well, you see, I used to be the kind of guy who would eat anything as long it would fit his target caloric intake. But after reading all the stuff that I have on simple carbs and LDL fats, I'm no longer a believer that a calorie is just a calorie. It IS mostly about caloric intake, but a lot of people go way beyond their caloric intake, and IMO that has to do with what is in some of these calories that they eat.

A calorie is not a calorie in the strictest sense. A calorie of dietary fat is very different than a calorie of protein. No argument there.

Can you post up some of what you're reading bc you're not talking specifics so it makes it harder to understand what specifically you're saying? Can you also explain what you mean by ppl going over their caloric intake and that being bc of what's in the calories they eat?

[jay94]

A calorie is not a calorie in the strictest sense. A calorie of dietary fat is very different than a calorie of protein. No argument there.

Can you post up some of what you're reading bc you're not talking specifics so it makes it harder to understand what specifically you're saying? Can you also explain what you mean by ppl going over their caloric intake and that being bc of what's in the calories they eat?

Check above. I edited my first reponse post with some of the research I was referring to.