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    Quote Originally Posted by LuchoX View Post
    Hey ppl, I wanted to ask this quick question, I'd like to have a first cycle, but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible, that why I wanted to follow the first cycle recommendation on this web page:
    The Best Beginner Steroid Cycles:
    Week 1-12 Testosterone-Enanthate or Testosterone-Cypionate: 250mg-500mg per week
    Week 13-15 you will take nothing and let the testosterone begin to clear out
    Week 16-17 Nolvadex 40mg per day
    Week 18-19 Nolvadex 20mg per day

    However I have been reading info on the forum on what would be a recommended cycle and it includes HCG, AI, and Clomid with the Nolva. This is more that I'd like to have for the first cycle, that's why wanted to ask if it is possible to have the cycle simple (very simple), if so what would be the long term side effects, I can handle some minor side temporary effects. thanks!

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    If your going as simple as possible this is a good cycle, but go with a full 500 mg/wk, not 250-500 mg/wk. No offense to NACH, but I wouldn't add HCG in a simple cycle, nor would I use two SERMS as Test-only isn't very harsh. I like what you have, a basic compound and a basic PCT. As you learn about your body and incorporate harsher compounds in subsequent cycles, more ancillaries and PCT may be of value but only as necessary...less is more. However, consider frontloading long esters, when there's no kick starter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    If your going as simple as possible this is a good cycle, but go with a full 500 mg/wk, not 250-500 mg/wk. No offense to NACH, but I wouldn't add HCG in a simple cycle, nor would I use two SERMS as Test-only isn't very harsh. I like what you have, a basic compound and a basic PCT. As you learn about your body and incorporate harsher compounds in subsequent cycles, more ancillaries and PCT may be of value but only as necessary...less is more. However, consider frontloading long esters, when there's no kick starter.
    Hey Magic, why wouldn't you run hCG on cycle(even if it's just a test only)?? And also why not the clomid(as its proven that the two work in synergy best together, while also being stated to do so in Austinites first cycle protocol? I'm just curious to your thinking on this.... He could just take Nolva but why risk it? Science proves that it's the most effective way to a faster recovery...

    Just wanted to see your point of view on the matter(as I know your knowledgable ... Just don't see the pint in risking a safe proven method that's better for a faster safer recovery... Just my thoughts... And wanted yours... Thx!
    Last edited by NACH3; 03-07-2015 at 05:54 PM.

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