Test E and EQ

[miller1085]

I had a successful Test E campaign last year and plan to start up again in two months. I want to try EQ as well this time around. What do you guys suggest? I'm thinking 500mg Test E ew and 600 mg EQ ew. I want to run the test out to 14 weeks and read that EQ should run weeks 1-8 ....should I not go 14 weeks with it as well? Thank you guys in advance.

[PT]

Maybe stop the EQ a week before stopping the test.

[-Ender-]

I have seen no benefit from adding EQ to a cycle. I have run it in a side by side comparison to long ester test only cycle. There was no noticeable difference. I ran the EQ upwards of 800mg ew.

Injection amount is rather large and it is a waste of space in the syringe.

my $.02

[derekkpapa1]

I have seen no benefit from adding EQ to a cycle. I have run it in a side by side comparison to long ester test only cycle. There was no noticeable difference. I ran the EQ upwards of 800mg ew.

Injection amount is rather large and it is a waste of space in the syringe.

my $.02

100% agree. There are better compounds out there where you can get more bang for your buck

[human project]

I have seen no benefit from adding EQ to a cycle. I have run it in a side by side comparison to long ester test only cycle. There was no noticeable difference. I ran the EQ upwards of 800mg ew.

Injection amount is rather large and it is a waste of space in the syringe.

my $.02

I feel the same way.... Deca has all the same benefits except its better in every way.... I never understood all the hype with eq... I've never noticed any further gains by adding eq.

[BG]

Moved to correct forum for more replies.

[Buster Brown]

I have seen no benefit from adding EQ to a cycle. I have run it in a side by side comparison to long ester test only cycle. There was no noticeable difference. I ran the EQ upwards of 800mg ew.

Injection amount is rather large and it is a waste of space in the syringe.

my $.02

I agree as well......as DJ stated there are other compounds that are far superior.

[aesthetics_sexy]

I agree as well......as DJ stated there are other compounds that are far superior.

and what are those compounds ?

[Roger11]

and what are those compounds ?

basically every other steroid available. lol

[reporich]

EQ needs to be run for longer periods, like 16- 20 weeks.

[Buster Brown]

EQ needs to be run for longer periods, like 16- 20 weeks.

And with that in mind the same results can be had in half the time with different compounds.

[fishizzle0927]

Do you have a squeaky bike chain you can use the eq on?

[NACH3]

^^^ exactly! Lol

On a serious note... All great advice above! Again, there are much better compounds out there w/much better results!

[PT]

I don't know, I really like EQ and primo. Right now I'm running 1000mg of primo, 800mgs of eq and 250mg of test. I love the gains I get from these cycles.

[BG]

I don't know, I really like EQ and primo. Right now I'm running 1000mg of primo, 800mgs of eq and 250mg of test. I love the gains I get from these cycles.

I agree, Ive ran great cycles with eq. Add b-12 and some test its great to bulk.

[NACH3]

I don't know, I really like EQ and primo. Right now I'm running 1000mg of primo, 800mgs of eq and 250mg of test. I love the gains I get from these cycles.

I do love my Primo as well... I also run that dose... Anything 800mgs Wkly on up is great for gaining LBM while gaining/maintaining vascularity(depending on starting bf of course) but one of my favorite compounds In my experiences...

[miller1085]

Ok, I was trying to stay a little leaner with the EQ addition while taking Test, I loved my Test only cycle. I was trying to add a compound that would keep me a little leaner while I was on Test. What do you guys suggest I could use in place of EQ to achieve this? Thank you guys for the advice thus far.

[NACH3]

Ok, I was trying to stay a little leaner with the EQ addition while taking Test, I loved my Test only cycle. I was trying to add a compound that would keep me a little leaner while I was on Test. What do you guys suggest I could use in place of EQ to achieve this? Thank you guys for the advice thus far.

As you probably know... Diet and cardio will do this even on a bulk... If your diet training and cardio are on point so will you staying lean...

On a side note you'll have to see what works for you... Primo is often faked, backloading anavar would be a good choice... It's mild and will increase strength and vascularity...

[human project]

Ok, I was trying to stay a little leaner with the EQ addition while taking Test, I loved my Test only cycle. I was trying to add a compound that would keep me a little leaner while I was on Test. What do you guys suggest I could use in place of EQ to achieve this? Thank you guys for the advice thus far.

How lean you stay is all diet.... Ive had some of my best cutting cycles with test, deca, d Bol... Compounds that I prefer to eq tho are basically any other compound... Tren being my favorite with primo... I'm a big fan of mast as well; especially if im really keen... Sub 6% bf mast is the best compound in my toolbox....

[miller1085]

Thanx a lot for the advice. I think that I will try the EQ this go round and after I'm done PCT, I'll go with strait test and backload anavar, people are swearing by deca to. Thanx again for all the input.

[Roger11]

Thanx a lot for the advice. I think that I will try the EQ this go round and after I'm done PCT, I'll go with strait test and backload anavar, people are swearing by deca to. Thanx again for all the input.

Do not run eq, its ****ing crap


Ran it 3x now and its done NOTHING! On cycle now at 800mg per week with it and im seeing nothing. Will never EVER EVER EVER touch it again.

[BG]

Do not run eq, its ****ing crap


Ran it 3x now and its done NOTHING! On cycle now at 800mg per week with it and im seeing nothing. Will never EVER EVER EVER touch it again.

Probably bunk. Its a good compound, why does it work so good for horses?

[Roger11]

Probably bunk. Its a good compound, why does it work so good for horses?

It wasnt bunk mate. It was Vet Grade 50mg/ml.

Maybe because we arent horses? Who knows lol.

Lets Hear Austs and Marcuses opinions on eq then shall we ? haha

[human project]

Thanx a lot for the advice. I think that I will try the EQ this go round and after I'm done PCT, I'll go with strait test and backload anavar, people are swearing by deca to. Thanx again for all the input.

In my experience anavar is way too expensive for what it's worth as well... For the cost of a decent anavar cycle you could probably run two compounds... I've only noticed good results with upwards of 100-150mg a day and at that dose it gets super expensive

[NACH3]

If your thinking of Deca I would go w/NPP same compound short ester(that way if sides occur you can drop it and it'll clear fast) but backloading var on a second cycle w/your goals at hand could really be what your looking for... Just my .02

[human project]

If your thinking of Deca I would go w/NPP same compound short ester(that way if sides occur you can drop it and it'll clear fast) but backloading var on a second cycle w/your goals at hand could really be what your looking for... Just my .02

I don't know if it's just me but I don't see how npp and deca are the same... Deca is one of my favorite compounds where as npp has never really be anywhere near as good... Now that being said I've only used npp once and there's always a chance of it having been bunk but the source has always been legit and since I didn't have any noticeable gains I never tired it again

[BG]

I don't know if it's just me but I don't see how npp and deca are the same... Deca is one of my favorite compounds where as npp has never really be anywhere near as good... Now that being said I've only used npp once and there's always a chance of it having been bunk but the source has always been legit and since I didn't have any noticeable gains I never tired it again

Same compound different Ester attached.

[PT]

More then likely you were shooting oil. EQ won't produce deca like gains with me but I perfer the quality gains I get from it.

[Chimera44]

Eq only starts to show results after week 12 at least. It's good for like 16-20 week cycles

[Buster Brown]

and what are those compounds ?

Deca, tren, npp, primo, mast.

[aesthetics_sexy]

Deca, tren, npp, primo, mast.

you are ignoring the side effects. The roids you have written above may produce more gains but they also have more side effects:-

1. Deca- notorious for causing low libido for long period of time
2. tren- the list of side effects from this compound is endless . insomnia, night sweats, shortness of breath to name a few .
3. npp- same side effects as deca
4. mast- it doesnt have much side effects but then it also produce less gains .

whereas eq is very mild with less side effects at moderate dosages.

If you are talking about a better roid you also have to take side effects into account mate

[NACH3]

you are ignoring the side effects. The roids you have written above may produce more gains but they also have more side effects:-

1. Deca- notorious for causing low libido drive for long period of time
2. tren- the list of side effects from this compound is endless . insomnia, night sweats, shortness of breath to name a few .
3. npp- same side effects as deca
4. mast- it doesnt have much side effects but then it also produce less gains .

whereas eq is very mild with less side effects at moderate dosages.

If you are talking about a better roid you also have to take side effects into account mate

Your thoughts on nandrolone are off my friend... And same w/tren(but the sides are worse than Nandrolone)...

If you keep your E2 in check(at your sweetspot) and manage your prolac, you won't experience any loss of libido! Deca dick is simply caused by not managing your Estro and prolactin(as all 19nors Tren/Nandrolone are progestins) hence the importance of your AI/DA(if E2 isn't controlled well)...

[aesthetics_sexy]

Your thoughts on nandrolone are off my friend... And same w/tren(but the sides are worse than Nandrolone)...

If you keep your E2 in check(at your sweetspot) and manage your prolac, you won't experience any loss of libido! Deca dick is simply caused by not managing your Estro and prolactin(as all 19nors Tren/Nandrolone are progestins) hence the importance of your AI/DA(if E2 isn't controlled well)...

Managing progest requires taking other med like caber which is not a candy it has its own side effects . whereas with eq you don't require other ancillaries( at moderate dosages) . so for an average gym rat who is not a professional bodybuilder eq is a better option as you don't need to take med that has host of other sideffects. Just my 2 cents.

[NACH3]

Managing progest requires taking other med like caber which is not a candy it has its own side effects . whereas with eq you don't require other ancillaries( at moderate dosages) . so for an average gym rat who is not a professional bodybuilder eq is a better option as you don't need to take med that has host of other sideffects. Just my 2 cents.

Prami/& Caber are DAs(and are only needed w/19nors) and if your e2 isn't dialed in w/an AI your prolactin will rise causing other sideshow... Hence the reason for running a DA... And if you have your E2 in check, that's what BW is for mid cycle(to see where your levels are so you can add what needs to be added(up your AI dose, if you need to add your DA to lower your prolactin then it's obvious that the person can't control their estro...

But you would get much more/& worse sides if you ran a 19nor w/out a DA(if not experienced w/your AI... Again why BW us so important!

However, w/Eq your right you don't need a DA as it's not a progestin.... But don't fool yourself for future if you ever did run a 19nor.... Just my .02

[Buster Brown]

Eq only starts to show results after week 12 at least. It's good for like 16-20 week cycles

So why run a 20 week cycle with eq when you can achieve the same results in a shorter period of time using different compounds.

[Chimera44]

So why run a 20 week cycle with eq when you can achieve the same results in a shorter period of time using different compounds.

Well I think if you're looking to run a long and mild cycle, it would be great. Or if you run more intense compounds in the beginning, and still get results much later in the cycle. I ran test/eq for 14 weeks and didn't really gain weight till week 12. I think it has its uses, I just don't know too many lol

[miller1085]

So I'm definitely going with EQ 600mg ew, you guys think I should front load Dbol? Also ran a test only cycle last year at 500mg ew, I'm thinking I could bump it up a bit also. All I had for sides at 500mg was oily skin, I stayed acne free. Do you think a bump up to 600 mg ew would give me any other sides?

[Rose1]

I had a successful Test E campaign last year and plan to start up again in two months. I want to try EQ as well this time around. What do you guys suggest? I'm thinking 500mg Test E ew and 600 mg EQ ew. I want to run the test out to 14 weeks and read that EQ should run weeks 1-8 ....should I not go 14 weeks with it as well? Thank you guys in advance.

I am 54 years old and have run 2-cycles of TEST E along with EQ 300 at only 1cc TEST E 250 with 1cc or 300mg Equipoise weekly and my TEST level from bloodwork was 1,430 and if you do this dose you can run it longer than 8-weeks and Equipoise gives SOLID/STEADY gains that you keep even though they are small gains, they are in fact GOOD QUALITY gains. There are other cycles also as other members have mentioned to you.
That's just my experience.

[MR10X]

Back in the 80's i used deca (the real stuff not UGL) and when i started using EQ instead i never used deca again. Deca is some nasty shit and stays in your system for a very long time,recovery can be a big problem.NPP is better but not much.....

[miller1085]

I have heard people run EQ all the way out to 18 weeks. With test e maintaining good test levels.