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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
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    Vitamin D - 15,000 iu ed (tapering down eventually) (have blood work for vitamin D) ( too high take 5000 IU daily- your current usage is toxic)
    It is true that doses above 10,000IU daily have higher occurrences of higher Calcium in the blood or urine, but I haven't heard these levels characterized as "toxic."

    Dr. Bruce Hollis says, “There is no sense to taking less than 10,000IU of Vitamin D a day.” I don't know if I would take more than that, but took 10,000IU daily for 6 months and had no problems.

    If you would like to learn more, check out YouTube: Results of a Prostate Cancer/Vitamin D Trial: Effectiveness Safety Recommendations - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrU1yrmNIqc

    Lots of good Vitamin D information on YouTube!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    Vynase shuts down testosterone production and delays puberty
    Simon do you have any solid studies on this topic? Very interested in it but I've never read anything I've considered substantial. I'm familiar with the mechanism by which amphetamines can inhibit test production but never a solid link to vyvanse. Appreciate anything you can give. PM if you like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Simon do you have any solid studies on this topic? Very interested in it but I've never read anything I've considered substantial. I'm familiar with the mechanism by which amphetamines can inhibit test production but never a solid link to vyvanse. Appreciate anything you can give. PM if you like.
    No solid studies, mostly anecdotal (on forum posts i looked up (testosterone+vynase), but i assume the wont be any studies forthcoming . - i drew a link to amphetamine and testosterone, i would expect the link would stand with this drug also..wouldnt it?

    Could Vyvanse cause Blood testosterone decreased - eHealthMe.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Simon1972 View Post
    No solid studies, mostly anecdotal (on forum posts i looked up (testosterone+vynase), but i assume the wont be any studies forthcoming . - i drew a link to amphetamine and testosterone, i would expect the link would stand with this drug also..wouldnt it?

    Could Vyvanse cause Blood testosterone decreased - eHealthMe.com

    Not sure it would stand. I want to hope "not" as the make-up of individual drugs, even of the same sub-type do differ, and doc's dole this out quickly. I did happen to see that study and discounted it due to the low volume of affected participants. Just too many variables in life to pin point it directly to Vyvanse in that study, imho.

    Interesting stuff Simon. If you run across more let me know please. I'm very interested as my son was on it for a short period of time.
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