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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    Bubbly piss doesn't mean wasted protein.
    What does it mean? It's something(that the body is expelling!)

    Your body can not absorb all macros, hence them getting stored as fat/sugars etc if not used as fuel!!
    Last edited by NACH3; 03-17-2015 at 07:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    What does it mean? It's something(that the body is expelling!)

    Your body can not absorb all macros, hence them getting stored as fat/sugars etc if not used as fuel!!
    Absorption is not the same as utilization, you're confusing the two terms here. Absorption means that once something has been digested mechanically and chemically by your teeth and enzymes, the nutrients pass into the blood stream. Utilization refers to what they end up being used for.

    Protein will never be stored as fat in any realistic scenario. He pathways exist for it to happen but like I said earlier the chances of it happening are so small you're better off playing mega millions and hoping to win the jackpot.

    Carbs are very rarely stored as fat. This myth was started from research on rats who process carbs much differently than humans. In humans it's a distant concern.

    Dietary fat is the only macro that's always stored as fat.

    Your body most certainly will digest and absorb as well as utilize all macros provided you're healthy and no medical issues.

    Bubbly urine is simply the by product of a hun protein diet. There's more nitrogen in the body that needs to be processed and expelled as well as other nutrients.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Docd187123 View Post
    Absorption is not the same as utilization, you're confusing the two terms here. Absorption means that once something has been digested mechanically and chemically by your teeth and enzymes, the nutrients pass into the blood stream. Utilization refers to what they end up being used for.

    Protein will never be stored as fat in any realistic scenario. He pathways exist for it to happen but like I said earlier the chances of it happening are so small you're better off playing mega millions and hoping to win the jackpot.

    Carbs are very rarely stored as fat. This myth was started from research on rats who process carbs much differently than humans. In humans it's a distant concern.

    Dietary fat is the only macro that's always stored as fat.

    Your body most certainly will digest and absorb as well as utilize all macros provided you're healthy and no medical issues.

    Bubbly urine is simply the by product of a hun protein diet. There's more nitrogen in the body that needs to be processed and expelled as well as other nutrients.
    I agree... There is a precise difference in utilization and absorption! That's why I'm saying it's impossible to absorb all your macros(why we all eat more than the usual person(this does not mean we are utilizing every macro we take in)!

    I really don't believe that you think you believe that carbs don't get stored as fat... What myth is this?

    Too much of any(macro) if not utilized will be stored away until one goes on a caloric deficit to utilize that stored fuel first... The more we take in over our TDEE the more it could be stored away, and spill over is gonna happen!
    Last edited by NACH3; 03-17-2015 at 08:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    I agree... There is a precise difference in utilization and absorption! That's why I'm saying it's impossible to absorb all your macros(why we all eat more than the usual person(this does not mean we are utilizing every macro we take in)!

    I really don't believe that you think you believe that carbs don't get stored as fat... What myth is this?


    Absorption happens right after digestion. Absorption means the nutrients get into your blood stream, which again barring any medical or GI issues, happens at almost a 100% efficiency rate. We do absorb and utilize almost everything, macro and calorie wise, we eat.

    The creation of fat from carbohydrates is de novo lipogenesis or DNL. DNL is much more prevalent in rats bc they process carbs differently than humans do. This idea that if too many carbs are eaten they'll convert to fat is based off fat models and studies not humans. It's not that common In humans. You need to be in a hypercaloric state and eat enough carbs that you fully replenish glycogen stores as well as exceed your energy needs for the day.

    Here's one study showing 500g of carbs taken

    Am J Clin Nutr. 1987 Jan;45(1):78-85. Links
    Carbohydrate metabolism and de novo lipogenesis in human obesity.

    Acheson KJ, Schutz Y, Bessard T, Flatt JP, Jéquier E.
    Respiratory exchange was measured during 14 consecutive hours in six lean and six obese individuals after ingestion of 500 g of dextrin maltose to investigate and compare their capacity for net de novo lipogenesis. After ingestion of the carbohydrate load, metabolic rates rose similarly in both groups but fell earlier and more rapidly in the obese. RQs also rose rapidly and remained in the range of 0.95 to 1.00 for approximately 8 h in both groups. During this time, RQ exceeded 1.00 for only short periods of time with the result that 4 +/- 1 g and 5 +/- 3 g (NS) of fat were synthesized via de novo lipogenesis in excess of concomitant fat oxidation in the lean and obese subjects, respectively. Results demonstrate that net de novo lipid synthesis from an unusually large carbohydrate load is not greater in obese than in lean individuals.



    Too much of any(macro) if not utilized will be stored away until one goes on a caloric deficit to utilize that stored fuel first... The more we take in over our TDEE the more it could be stored away, and spill over is gonna happen!
    This is an overly simplistic and not a fully accurate description of what happens. Too much protein will never be stored away to create fat. Try as hard as you might this is not going to happen in humans.

    Too many carbs can in certain circumstances be stored as fat but this is not as common as it's made out to be.

    All the fat you eat will be stored as fat.

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