First Tren + Test E Cycle

[kelkel]

Now, I don't possibly think I could eat any more food than I do, I eat 5-6 good meals a day with 30+ gs of protein in each.

Oh I understand. It's not easy to do. Remember, if you want to be 200 lbs then you need to eat like a 200 pound guy. I have the same metabolism and empathize with you. Time is on your side, just be patient and it will come.

[Frenchy93]

Bumping this thread, just an update. Just finished my 4th week of 250 Test x 100 tren eod. 10-15 lbs gained.

Is it odd to not have any side effects by now? I have absolutely nothing, my backnee somehow cleared itself up as soon as I started running tren. My huge libido spike I had weeks 1-3 is back down to normal now which I'm okay with.

[dfarre]

Oh I understand. It's not easy to do. Remember, if you want to be 200 lbs then you need to eat like a 200 pound guy. I have the same metabolism and empathize with you. Time is on your side, just be patient and it will come.

BULLS*IT!!!!!!!!!! If you want to become a fat pig then you eat like that. WTF is wrong with you? There are millions of online calculators to calculate how much to eat to gain muscle.

[lovbyts]

BULLS*IT!!!!!!!!!! If you want to become a fat pig then you eat like that. WTF is wrong with you? There are millions of online calculators to calculate how much to eat to gain muscle.

You really need to re consider the no frap because it's effecting your common sense and logic. Maybe try a hot shower instead of ice cold ones once in a while.

[Frenchy93]

Any night sweats yet? Ive heard a few times before when people started using tren their acne cleared up in the past. Since you libido has gone down you should consider a mid cycle hormone test to check your Free T and sensitive E2. It's possible your E2 is elevated since your libido has gone down but DONT guess and start using the caber or more AI until you know one way or the other.

No night sweats AT ALL. I wouldn't say my libido is bad it's just back to a natural level. But I'm also thinking this is because I have actually become interested in one specific girl which is abnormal for me haha. My sex life has been fine, lasting as long as usual and maintaining an erection.

I have prami on hand rather than caber but have not been tempted to use it yet.

How are you running your AI's? Did you bother with a DA? I plan on running this very cycle in the next few weeks, wondering if I require an AI or not.

I am with @NACH3 on this one...

I highly recommend this cycle I have made huge improvements.

I run .25mg liquid arimidex eod.

PLEASE RUN AN AI, although tren does not aromatize (turn to estrogen) you are still running test and for what it's worth I would not mess with not using one.

I have prami on hand but have not had to use it.

http://forums.steroid.com/anabolic-s...ly-thread.html

I was really relying on the above sticky's info in preparation for my upcoming first tren cycle. But after reading through this thread I'm feelin lost again.

Op what are you running w your cycle?

I was under the belief from the above sticky link that Caber was a necessity to run w tren.

Sorry for butting in btw!

No worries man, here to help with what little knowledge I have.

I am only running an AI and have prami on hand.

[TrevHoff]

I highly recommend this cycle I have made huge improvements.

I run .25mg liquid arimidex eod.

PLEASE RUN AN AI, although tren does not aromatize (turn to estrogen) you are still running test and for what it's worth I would not mess with not using one.

I have prami on hand but have not had to use it.

With such low test (well relatively low), if one is to take TRT levels along with Tren is an AI really necessary? I know only bloods will tell, but to start off with is it a good idea to get on an AI? Again, plan on taking this exact cycle in the coming weeks 100-200mg/WK of Test-E. Notably currently on TRT at 100mg/WK.

[Frenchy93]

With such low test (well relatively low), if one is to take TRT levels along with Tren is an AI really necessary? I know only bloods will tell, but to start off with is it a good idea to get on an AI? Again, plan on taking this exact cycle in the coming weeks 100-200mg/WK of Test-E. Notably currently on TRT at 100mg/WK.

Honestly man, I'd look foolish giving you a definite answer as I am not as knowledgable as 90% of the guys and don't want to lead you in the wrong direction. I would advise it for piece of mind. Highly recommend this cycle it's great.

I have a friend who is transgendered and he is takin 100 ml a week and his doctor said any more than that a week and he would recommend an anti estrogen to her. Completely different suggestions but just thought I'd mention it.

[Back In Black]

BULLS*IT!!!!!!!!!! If you want to become a fat pig then you eat like that. WTF is wrong with you? There are millions of online calculators to calculate how much to eat to gain muscle.

You're a proper little cvnt aren't you. You stick to your calculators and inability to even talk to girls let alone kiss one and we will stick to the real world. Knob.

[tectime]

You're a proper little cvnt aren't you. You stick to your calculators and inability to even talk to girls let alone kiss one and we will stick to the real world. Knob.

Haha ! Yes yes I believe he is!

[kelkel]

BULLS*IT!!!!!!!!!! If you want to become a fat pig then you eat like that. WTF is wrong with you? There are millions of online calculators to calculate how much to eat to gain muscle.

Nothing's wrong with me. We all know there are many things wrong with you from your idiotic rants. And I apologize but not all of us need a calculator to know how much to eat or to gain muscle. Beyond that, you're not worth responding to.

[davidtheman100]

BULLS*IT!!!!!!!!!! If you want to become a fat pig then you eat like that. WTF is wrong with you? There are millions of online calculators to calculate how much to eat to gain muscle.

Look at Kel, and then look at you. Who do you think OP is more opt to listen to? If online calculators were the answer pregnant crossfitters would look better than bodybuilders..