My Food Plan for Constructive Criticism

[IronClydes]

222.2 pounds this morning. 2 weeks into this 1000 calorie cut while cycling low carbs at less than half my maintenance. I have also increased cardio to allow more consumption throughout. Still no noticeable visible difference from myself, my wife, or fellow competitors. 222.5, 6', 34, 13.8% bf, bench 320, squat 435, dead 465.

Was shocked to weigh in less than the day before after that huge cheat meal last night. I was dehydrated and had used bathroom twice since, however.

I have to say i am not sure I want to maintain this difficult calorie restriction given the absence of any results so far.

Changes in training take about 6 weeks to be realized in growth or the lack therein. However, changes in diet have immediate effects and are generally noticed rather quickly. Especially when they are as drastic as cutting 35% of my calories and halving my carb intake while cycling. I really feel I should have noticed some visible changes and weight loss...but a 1-1.5 loss that may or may not be fat? Unsure.

I am looking forward to the results of increasing my blast dosage 40%, from 500-700 a week! I am, however, concerned with metabolic damage from an aggressive calories restriction. I am considering following Marcus's advice and cycling from maintenance. But, I am unsure of his approach and awaiting his response to my last response to him on this thread. There is a chance we are actually taking the same route, just using different directional cues.

I will repost my response for any who know his intent better and can clarify.

Also, any feedback on where I am is respected. Perhaps I am being too anxious and need to ride this aggressive restriction out longer? Just afraid of metabolic damage and also muscle loss. Plus, on this dose of a blast, I don't want to waste growth potential trying to cut without results in either area: no fat loss, no muscle gain. I prefer to cut fat right now, but if that's not working, at least gaining the muscle from the blast would be a win. Maybe I need to salvage this in that way and return to at least a maintenance dose via reverse dieting (increase 100 daily up to maintenance) in case damage was done to my metabolism.

Thoughts welcome. I have a thick skin. Don't worry about how I will take your feedback. I know I am impatient, inexperienced (read a lot though), and stubborn.

Thanks guys!

222.5, 6', 34, 13.8% bf, bench 320, squat 435, dead 465.

[MR-FQ320]

Was shocked to weigh in less than the day before after that huge cheat meal last night. I was dehydrated and had used bathroom twice since, however.

I have to say i am not sure I want to maintain this difficult calorie restriction given the absence of any results so far.

Changes in training take about 6 weeks to be realized in growth or the lack therein. However, changes in diet have immediate effects and are generally noticed rather quickly. Especially when they are as drastic as cutting 35% of my calories and halving my carb intake while cycling. I really feel I should have noticed some visible changes and weight loss...but a 1-1.5 loss that may or may not be fat? Unsure.

I am looking forward to the results of increasing my blast dosage 40%, from 500-700 a week! I am, however, concerned with metabolic damage from an aggressive calories restriction. I am considering following Marcus's advice and cycling from maintenance. But, I am unsure of his approach and awaiting his response to my last response to him on this thread. There is a chance we are actually taking the same route, just using different directional cues.

I will repost my response for any who know his intent better and can clarify.

Also, any feedback on where I am is respected. Perhaps I am being too anxious and need to ride this aggressive restriction out longer? Just afraid of metabolic damage and also muscle loss. Plus, on this dose of a blast, I don't want to waste growth potential trying to cut without results in either area: no fat loss, no muscle gain. I prefer to cut fat right now, but if that's not working, at least gaining the muscle from the blast would be a win. Maybe I need to salvage this in that way and return to at least a maintenance dose via reverse dieting (increase 100 daily up to maintenance) in case damage was done to my metabolism.

Thoughts welcome. I have a thick skin. Don't worry about how I will take your feedback. I know I am impatient, inexperienced (read a lot though), and stubborn.

Thanks guys!

222.5, 6', 34, 13.8% bf, bench 320, squat 435, dead 465.

Bro, I whole heartedly disagree with you here, when i first strted out and learning about dieting as a live human guinea pig, it took me 6 months for the penny to drop, and five / six years later I'm still mastering dieting techniquies. Have you been independantgly researching ANY of the terms and / or science behind any of this ? Anyway my point was that it takes three weeks to get into 'fat burning zone', you are being impatient and wanting instant results

[IronClydes]

Bro, I whole heartedly disagree with you here, when i first strted out and learning about dieting as a live human guinea pig, it took me 6 months for the penny to drop, and five / six years later I'm still mastering dieting techniquies. Have you been independantgly researching ANY of the terms and / or science behind any of this ? Anyway my point was that it takes three weeks to get into 'fat burning zone', you are being impatient and wanting instant results

I thought I was being impatient, just hearing a lot of other things. And, yes, you'd be surprised to know how many conflicting sources of information there is on what you are recommending. I have been researching, just hard to know who is right as they are so opposite.

Cheat meal : date with wifey - perfect. Order what you want, starters mains desserts, no or little alcohol.

The 100g is tough and it's something to aim for, I would be tempted to give you more slack on the 200g days.

Eat cheat meal and reassess after next workout.

I obviously forgot the alcohol part, two whiskeys...noted for next time!

What do you think about 3 days at 115 and 1 at 315, then repeat? This follows Marcus's advice of 3 days @ 40% below maintenance, followed by 1 @ 15% above maintenance and repeat. He then said you could lenthen the low days up to 5 as needed for results.

The science behind the refeed is basically ; reset hormones and metabolism to base values. Have faith. Watch what happens. Report back.

What did you mean by watching what happens? Felt great and could have ate more than that 3,400 calorie meal. lol

^^^^ ok Tduff, hopefully words are with me a little better today and I can explain more clearly and you the benefit of my experience.

Because you are on cycle, fat loss and muscle growth can and should be accelerated during carb cycling, the results are only limited by the numbers involved, I believe that 4*100 low and 3* 200 high could be more suitable for somebody who is not on cycle or on TRT dosages. Just my thoughts, let's get you in the groove and see what's happening. I just don't want to waste any time while on cycle.

So, what did you feel was more suitable for someone on TRT and currently at cycle dosages then? More I assume?

Back side

Attachment 156842

225, 6', 34, 13.8% bf, bench 320, squat 435, dead 465.

I actually don't look as cut or pumped as I did in this photo. Things are going the wrong way so far. Too soon maybe...

I start my cut usually around 210 215lba...i eat about 150gm of carbs and once a week refeed with about 600gm of carbs...when i get further into the diet i introduce the carb cycling and will do 100, 150, 200 and still one day of re-feed...my fat lose calories are about 2200cal per day...this works for me and has for a long time, but now that i am gettin golder i fid it harder to make progress at these numbers...

Man, these numbers sound much more appetizing. lol 100, 150, 200, then refeed 600 once a week.

[MR-FQ320]

I thought I was being impatient, just hearing a lot of other things. And, yes, you'd be surprised to know how many conflicting sources of information there is on what you are recommending. I have been researching, just hard to know who is right as they are so opposite.

Give me an example



I obviously forgot the alcohol part, two whiskeys...noted for next time!thats 48 hours of impaired liver and kidney function, you might as well not bother lifting for two days now

What do you think about 3 days at 115 and 1 at 315, then repeat? This follows Marcus's advice of 3 days @ 40% below maintenance, followed by 1 @ 15% above maintenance and repeat. He then said you could lenthen the low days up to 5 as needed for results. sounds plausible, I was going to recomend 5 at 100 and two at 250



What did you mean by watching what happens? Felt great and could have ate more than that 3,400 calorie meal. lol [b] you said you weighed less ? , i think you should have eaten more then, listen to your body[b]



So, what did you feel was more suitable for someone on TRT and currently at cycle dosages then? More I assume? I cannot comment on TRT, but i dont understand the conservative blast figures at all, i dont understand why its taken this long to nail a diet when your already on the juice



I actually don't look as cut or pumped as I did in this photo. Things are going the wrong way so far. Too soon maybe... you wont, youre in calorie deficit, cut, bulk, cut, bulk, cut bulk, cut , bulk



Man, these numbers sound much more appetizing. lol 100, 150, 200, then refeed 600 once a week. in the name of experimentation try it out, let me know how you get on

All parameters are infinitely variable, highly person dependant, my methods i advise worked for me, I am surprised you are seeing nothing, change something if you must, Plan , Do , Check , Act , repeat