I think tren is hands down the best compound out there. I have tried NPP and I just don't think it measures up. I also waited along time to cycle Tren having many cycles under my belt. I have used both ace and enanthate and love them both . The sides can be tough and not everyone experiences the sides the same. I can't even say I get the exact same sides each time. Pound for pound tes/tren is tough to beat.....at any ratio!Originally Posted by jolter604