Cop Pulls Gun and Manhandles Black Teen Girl at Pool Party

[Metalject]

Verbal litigation definitely should not occur, but it's commonplace and leads to more violence.
Certain video's do clearly show right and wrong. This isn't one of them. It's much more subjective.
What she's wearing has nothing to do with this. She was told she was under arrest and did not comply. What's the cop supposed to do, say never mind?

The comment "if a cop was putting someone else's life in danger should by-standers stand by because he's a cop." Again that's subjective. But the reverse of that seems to always occur. Citizens are lightning quick to whip out their phones to video it but won't jump in to help. Either way, it's just a matter of opinion unless we are all experts at judging right and wrong and making instant assessments without knowing all the facts.

You're right, people mostly stand by and in most cases they should. In the majority of police and citizen interaction there's nothing anyone should do, but that's also not the argument. But in the cases of police misconduct, most stand by because they're petrified of the police. Obviously "petrified" is a strong word and perhaps an overstatement in many instances, but there is a strong element of fear involved when it comes to the police held by many and that fear should not exist yet it certainly does.

The comment about what she was wearing, I was merely stating it's not like she's hiding a gun. And OK, she was told she was under arrest...maybe, I couldn't make that out either way prior. It could have just as easily been she didn't go home like the cop asked her to, it pissed him off and there you go....it's hard to say from that video, I will agree with that. But we're talking about a tiny teenage girl, a child and a grown man. I do not care how annoying she was, how much under age drinking she may have been doing or what little girl she got in a fight with (if that's what happened) that justifies the way he handled her. He was rightly put on leave until the situation is resolved one way or another.

It's the "Police are the law" mentality that I don't like. They are not the law, the law is a the law, they are not one in the same. "Protect and Serve" the slogan that more than likely adorns every precinct across the country, that does not say or imply "we are the law." Yes, police are enforcers of the law when it is broken and that is meant to enforce when men (the public) cannot take care of the issues themselves. And that leads to another separate issue, people call the police for everything now from idiotic noise complaints, women do it to threaten men, people do it to scare their neighbor...on and on it goes. But again, that's another issue that surrounds societal breakdown.

Maybe when this particular incident is done it will come out that this girl was selling meth to a 8yr old boy around the corner and stabbing another one....sure, anything's possible, and I'm not being a smartass, anything is possible. But come on, we know that's highly unlikely and unless some truly violent act were occurring around the corner, there was no just cause for that officers actions.

[lovbyts]

You're right, people mostly stand by and in most cases they should. In the majority of police and citizen interaction there's nothing anyone should do, but that's also not the argument. But in the cases of police misconduct, most stand by because they're petrified of the police. Obviously "petrified" is a strong word and perhaps an overstatement in many instances, but there is a strong element of fear involved when it comes to the police held by many and that fear should not exist yet it certainly does.

The comment about what she was wearing, I was merely stating it's not like she's hiding a gun. And OK, she was told she was under arrest...maybe, I couldn't make that out either way prior. It could have just as easily been she didn't go home like the cop asked her to, it pissed him off and there you go....it's hard to say from that video, I will agree with that. But we're talking about a tiny teenage girl, a child and a grown man. I do not care how annoying she was, how much under age drinking she may have been doing or what little girl she got in a fight with (if that's what happened) that justifies the way he handled her. He was rightly put on leave until the situation is resolved one way or another.

It's the "Police are the law" mentality that I don't like. They are not the law, the law is a the law, they are not one in the same. "Protect and Serve" the slogan that more than likely adorns every precinct across the country, that does not say or imply "we are the law." Yes, police are enforcers of the law when it is broken and that is meant to enforce when men (the public) cannot take care of the issues themselves. And that leads to another separate issue, people call the police for everything now from idiotic noise complaints, women do it to threaten men, people do it to scare their neighbor...on and on it goes. But again, that's another issue that surrounds societal breakdown.

Maybe when this particular incident is done it will come out that this girl was selling meth to a 8yr old boy around the corner and stabbing another one....sure, anything's possible, and I'm not being a smartass, anything is possible. But come on, we know that's highly unlikely and unless some truly violent act were occurring around the corner, there was no just cause for that officers actions.

IN bold. I thought the same thing at first but after watching it a couple of times you know he actually did not handle her bad. He just made her comply without hurting her and got her under control quickly. It's easy for the blood pressure to go up quickly when you see any adult handle a kid/girl like that but it is his job and she was not likely to comply simply by his orders or it would not have gotten to that point.

I so would not want to be a cop in this day and age.

[kelkel]

But in the cases of police misconduct, most stand by because they're petrified of the police. Obviously "petrified" is a strong word and perhaps an overstatement in many instances, but there is a strong element of fear involved when it comes to the police held by many and that fear should not exist yet it certainly does.

I agree, petrified is a strong word. Police don't want to petrify people or even scare them. They just want to be respected and listened to when they give an instruction. When you don't listen, refuse to comply with a lawful order, act disorderly and possibly incite the crowd, you get arrested as this kid did. Her own lack of personal responsibility got her in trouble. The lack of discipline and personal responsibility with the younger generation is amazing to me. Note that a couple kids did run up in attempt to help their friend and had to be pushed back. Then a responsible citizen stepped in to help keep the kids away.

But we're talking about a tiny teenage girl, a child and a grown man. I do not care how annoying she was, how much under age drinking she may have been doing or what little girl she got in a fight with (if that's what happened) that justifies the way he handled her.

I wouldn't care if it were a midget, if you're told your under arrest you comply. Several other young men were arrested, complied and had no issues. She refused, resisted and reasonable force was used to arrest her.

It's the "Police are the law" mentality that I don't like. They are not the law, the law is a the law, they are not one in the same. "Protect and Serve" the slogan that more than likely adorns every precinct across the country, that does not say or imply "we are the law." Yes, police are enforcers of the law when it is broken and that is meant to enforce when men (the public) cannot take care of the issues themselves. And that leads to another separate issue, people call the police for everything now from idiotic noise complaints, women do it to threaten men, people do it to scare their neighbor...on and on it goes. But again, that's another issue that surrounds societal breakdown.

Agree, society is breaking down and it starts in the home. Discipline and personal responsibility. Agree with your assessment of the unnecessary use of government resources. It simply enables people.

But come on, we know that's highly unlikely and unless some truly violent act were occurring around the corner, there was no just cause for that officers actions.

Gotta agree to disagree on this one. But the conversations are always enjoyable Metal.