Normal TRT Dosage

[bedada]

I looked through some threads and did not see any information on TRT dosage. I'm going off the cream because it's a pain in the butt and I have not noticed any difference after 11 weeks. I'm going to ask my doctor to give me the shots. I've heard the normal dosage for TRT is 200mg .5-1cc a week. What do people on here take? I want to get my level as high as I can legally.

Thank you

[2Sox]

I'd suggest you not think about dosing as high as legally possible, but thinking of dosing that makes you feel good. That's what a "normal" dose is. Something we have all learned here is that more is NOT necessarily better. Stick around and you'll learn why.

BTW, 200mg/week is a rather high starting dose. You can start at half that and see how you feel.

[Simon1972]

i dose at 150 mg a week split over 2 pins.

[kelkel]

Always, always start low and titrate up based on labs. You have no clue exactly what amount of T you'll need at this point and it makes no sense to start at what is generally considered high end TRT. You avoid / minimize side effects by starting low (normal actually) and slowly moving up if needed. I'd suggest 100 mgs per week to start followed by labs in 6 weeks.

[jasondd1]

Kelkel is right of course but there is something to be said for being at the higher end of normal. 1100 vs 700 Im taking 1100 every time. I know I know higher is not always better but just as in dick size don't believe the girls when they say size doesn't matter.

[ppwc1985]

Like Kel and 2sox says start at 100. Some guys will do better at higher levels, but also at higher levels you could run into estrogen and higher hematocrit problems where if you drop it to say more normal levels you may not need an AI. Blood work is the key.

[thisAngelBites]

Like Kel and 2sox says start at 100. Some guys will do better at higher levels, but also at higher levels you could run into estrogen and higher hematocrit problems where if you drop it to say more normal levels you may not need an AI. Blood work is the key.

^^^^^ This. With higher numbers can come bigger problems. You can always increase later.

[kelkel]

Kelkel is right of course but there is something to be said for being at the higher end of normal. 1100 vs 700 Im taking 1100 every time. I know I know higher is not always better but just as in dick size don't believe the girls when they say size doesn't matter.

I'm not espousing lower T levels at all. Just lower starting doses. Remember numbers are important but how you feel is just as important. We all respond differently which is why starting low is always the best course of action. You just don't know where you'll land so no need to start high.

Totally agree with your last sentence! I now await Angel's comments......

[jasondd1]

I just wonder how many docs would increase someone who was at 750 total test and 100 mg of test cyp to 150-200 mg and get to 1,000 plus.

I'm not espousing lower T levels at all. Just lower starting doses. Remember numbers are important but how you feel is just as important. We all respond differently which is why starting low is always the best course of action. You just don't know where you'll land so no need to start high.

Totally agree with your last sentence! I now await Angel's comments......

[ppwc1985]

I just wonder how many docs would increase someone who was at 750 total test and 100 mg of test cyp to 150-200 mg and get to 1,000 plus.

I think most Drs are more concerned about Free test levels and how the patient feels. Some ppl may need to be at a higher level just to get the free test at the normal level.

[ppwc1985]

I also think a lot ppl just want to be on testosterone thinking they will get huge, where most of us just want to feel normal again.

[bedada]

Thank you for all of your advice. My doctor gave me two options. An under the tongue pill that seems to be a pain or the shots. For the shots she will give me 200 MG 1/4CC a week. I guess that is 50 mg a week. She told me the same theory. Better to start low because if you overshoot it you can kill your libido and it will never come back. She actually has her degree in HRT. My regular doctor has limited knowledge on this subject, and I've heard most MD's do not know much about HRT.

It seems like a very low dose, but she says it is the same dose as the cream and the cream made my levels go up. I was told the total test level is meaningless. The free test is the only number that matters when a blood test is done.

[thisAngelBites]

Totally agree with your last sentence! I now await Angel's comments......

I wouldn't touch that with a ten foot pole.

[bullshark99]

Come on Angel, I have been checking back diligently awaiting your response to Kels 'throw down' LOL.
Speculating here, totally agree with start small and bump up when needed. However, at what point is starting small, TOO small??? If one takes 50 mgs per week, after say 5-10 weeks, natty is Completely shut down. It would seem very feasible that the new artificial T levels are now lower than the preceding Low T original levels?
Yes, titration up at this point, just seems that 50mgs is a given to be too little?

[bigdil511]

Come on Angel, I have been checking back diligently awaiting your response to Kels 'throw down' LOL. Speculating here, totally agree with start small and bump up when needed. However, at what point is starting small, TOO small??? If one takes 50 mgs per week, after say 5-10 weeks, natty is Completely shut down. It would seem very feasible that the new artificial T levels are now lower than the preceding Low T original levels? Yes, titration up at this point, just seems that 50mgs is a given to be too little?

I wouldn't worry about the dose too much early on take what she gives you she's giving you good advice yes it's a small starting dose but she's willing to up the dose with your bloodwork it's totally legit and safe way to do it. Just worry about how you feel

[Simon1972]

100 is a good starting point. I'm at 150 but man, I feel tired at this dose so I might drop it down for a few weeks to trial

[mike198]

For TRT purposes, starting low is better. 100 mgs/week in 2 shots 50/50 Monday morning, Thursday night

[kelkel]

I just wonder how many docs would increase someone who was at 750 total test and 100 mg of test cyp to 150-200 mg and get to 1,000 plus.

I think most Drs are more concerned about Free test levels and how the patient feels. Some ppl may need to be at a higher level just to get the free test at the normal level.

Doc's SHOULD be concerned with free T levels. Unfortunately many are not and get stuck on a certain TT number regardless of the patients FT level.

Thank you for all of your advice. My doctor gave me two options. An under the tongue pill that seems to be a pain or the shots. For the shots she will give me 200 MG 1/4CC a week. I guess that is 50 mg a week. She told me the same theory. Better to start low because if you overshoot it you can kill your libido and it will never come back. She actually has her degree in HRT. My regular doctor has limited knowledge on this subject, and I've heard most MD's do not know much about HRT.

It seems like a very low dose, but she says it is the same dose as the cream and the cream made my levels go up. I was told the total test level is meaningless. The free test is the only number that matters when a blood test is done.

Give it a try. Check BW and adjust. Degree in HRT? Do you mean A4M Certified?

[E5Charlie]

I'm prescribed 150mg a week but I only take 100mg a week. I save the rest for my upcoming blast. 100mg puts me in the 800-900 range, which makes me feel good.

[kelkel]

I'm prescribed 150mg a week but I only take 100mg a week. I save the rest for my upcoming blast. 100mg puts me in the 800-900 range, which makes me feel good.

Always nice to have that "bank" of extra. I do the same. I do between 120-140 per week but I'm written 200 mgs, at my request.

[bedada]

Doc's SHOULD be concerned with free T levels. Unfortunately many are not and get stuck on a certain TT number regardless of the patients FT level.



Give it a try. Check BW and adjust. Degree in HRT? Do you mean A4M Certified?

I know she has a masters in the field. I don't know if it's hormone replacement therapy or what it's called. I live in a small town and the next closest HRT doctor is two hours. I'm not crazy about going to an MD because I hear they don't know much about this. She seems to know what she is doing, but is very conservative. She started me on HCG because I was too young for test. It worked at first then it actually went lower. After about 9 months she put me on test cream. After 11 weeks I felt zero difference and it was too hard to deal with the cream. Today I took my first shot, but I'm really thinking it is too low. The Walgreens pharmacist said 100-200mg is the normal dose. She's never seen 50mg. According to the salvia test the cream raised by test levels enough to have her put me on Dim to reduce my estrogen, which was a little higher than it should be. My DHEA is low. It was non existent until she put me on DHEA pills. She upped it to 200mg a day. The theory is if that is low, high test will not matter.

Thanks

[kelkel]

HCG mono does not work for everyone. I would choose gels over creams if necessary.
Just give it some time and stay on top of your FT BW and how you feel.
Remember, more isn't better with TRT, but neither is less. IMHO you should shoot for FT near the top of the range and not worry about TT.

[jasondd1]

same here, kind of my point

Always nice to have that "bank" of extra. I do the same. I do between 120-140 per week but I'm written 200 mgs, at my request.