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    First, would ask if you have recent bloodwork or if you do it regularly.

    Test and dbol (and tren) without AI is suicidal. If you cant get aromasin, get some adex.

    500mgs tren requires a DA to control prolactin, especcially if you neglect e2 management.

    1250ui/week can desensitize your leydig cells, so I would advice to 500ui/week throught out. High HCG dosage is what can promote gyno.

    A PCT with Nolva will be much more effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB
    First, would ask if you have recent bloodwork or if you do it regularly. Test and dbol (and tren) without AI is suicidal. If you cant get aromasin, get some adex. 500mgs tren requires a DA to control prolactin, especcially if you neglect e2 management. 1250ui/week can desensitize your leydig cells, so I would advice to 500ui/week throught out. High HCG dosage is what can promote gyno. A PCT with Nolva will be much more effective.
    I had full blood work done a few months back and there was nothing out if he ordinary. The doctor said I was very healthy considering I'm a smoker and used to drink a fair bit around that time. Well I'll continue in my search for an AI such as Aromasin or arimidex. Hopefully I'll be able to find something. If not, is it true that Nolva can be used throughout cycle at a low dose to combat aromatisation? What is a DA? As in Cabergoline/prami? Because there are also compounds I can't seem to source from anywhere and trust me I've tried. I see what you mean about the HCG dose being too high. I originally was planning on using a smaller dose throughout the cycle but I read that it can lead to increased gyno issues and as I can't get an AI at this stage, figured it would be easier to ride out any gyno effects without the added emphasis of the HCG making the gyno worse. But point taken and i see the sense in what your saying and will follow advice. As for nolva for PCT, I've read a few places that clomid is preferred for tren PCT due to the effect tren has on progesterone? I could be wrong, just assumed that clomid was a superior (although weaker) compound to use to combat the tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigev11 View Post
    I had full blood work done a few months back and there was nothing out if he ordinary. The doctor said I was very healthy considering I'm a smoker and used to drink a fair bit around that time. Well I'll continue in my search for an AI such as Aromasin or arimidex. Hopefully I'll be able to find something. If not, is it true that Nolva can be used throughout cycle at a low dose to combat aromatisation? What is a DA? As in Cabergoline/prami? Because there are also compounds I can't seem to source from anywhere and trust me I've tried. I see what you mean about the HCG dose being too high. I originally was planning on using a smaller dose throughout the cycle but I read that it can lead to increased gyno issues and as I can't get an AI at this stage, figured it would be easier to ride out any gyno effects without the added emphasis of the HCG making the gyno worse. But point taken and i see the sense in what your saying and will follow advice. As for nolva for PCT, I've read a few places that clomid is preferred for tren PCT due to the effect tren has on progesterone? I could be wrong, just assumed that clomid was a superior (although weaker) compound to use to combat the tren
    Nolva is a SERM and should only be used in a case of a gyno flare up on cycle... Otherwise clomid and nolva(6wks imo) for pct! So no nolva will not prevent aromatization

    Doesn't seem you have the knowledge to be running this cycle.... You need an AI period... If you can't control your E2 Prolactin will follow(in an elevated manner along w/your E2) so yes dex or stane is a must

    Also as BB stated your blasting HCG at the end when trying to recover(it is a suppressive) doesn't make much sense huh... Run it on cycle at 250iu e3.5d... Where's your DA? You need prami or caber for prolactin if E2 gets elevated(prolactin follows E2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    First, would ask if you have recent bloodwork or if you do it regularly.

    Test and dbol (and tren) without AI is suicidal. If you cant get aromasin, get some adex.

    500mgs tren requires a DA to control prolactin, especcially if you neglect e2 management.

    1250ui/week can desensitize your leydig cells, so I would advice to 500ui/week throught out. High HCG dosage is what can promote gyno.

    A PCT with Nolva will be much more effective.
    Yes he has said it all!

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