**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Sfla80]

Hey, all.right! The BP sounds great, Sfla. Perhaps he was referring to a new study/application for Cozaar.
How's the Bystolic treating you? Any weakness, coughing, or shortness of breath? The reason I ask is the first beta blocker they put me on was Lopressor and it absolutely drained me. I know a few people that take Bystolic and all of them have done well with little to no adverse reactions.

Felt nausea yesterday but not sure if it's the bystolic or not. So far so good.

That link I sent about the new med I also clicked on the sides....and that list is crazy. I'm gonna keep an eye out on everything. Which is kinda making me nervous about hitting weights again. Until I give it a week or two.

[Hazard]

[Hazard]

[GirlyGymRat]

Man really sorry to read about your back sfla man Hopefully someone more experience with this can help you. Hey GGR, ZZ Top have the perfect song for you to download legs and after that everything is just as good

Fine. had to buy it! For leg day.
http://youtu.be/0iXqWwKamMk

[kelkel]

Leg day for me today as well. Actually leg evening.

Extensions: 2 heavy. FYI, after the initial start I never bring them all the way down. Probably about 3/4's of the way. Don't feel the need to stretch / stress the tendon that way anymore.
Squats: Didn't know if I was going real heavy or not. Got to my normal weight which is where during the set I either decide to rack it and go up or just rep out depending on how I feel. Reps were going well and I hit that next gear so I stayed with them. Deep and controlled. Got to 17 and racked it. No need for more after that set. Mentally and physically pumped.
Leg Press: 2 sets heavy, got about 12 then 8.
Seated curls: 2 sets, 12 reps or so.
Calves on vertical press and seated.

Went well and I'm going to feel it tomorrow.

[almostgone]

Felt nausea yesterday but not sure if it's the bystolic or not. So far so good.

That link I sent about the new med I also clicked on the sides....and that list is crazy. I'm gonna keep an eye out on everything. Which is kinda making me nervous about hitting weights again. Until I give it a week or two.

Yeah, definitely get acclimated to the meds first. I was thinking about Clarky's idea about the preexhaust technique on my way to work tonight. If your treatment team/Drs. are comfortable with moderate lifting, maybe you can preexhaust with bodyweight exercises.
Pushups before chest lifts, hyperextensions before deads, wide grip pull ups and elastic band pull throughs prior to working the back. Maybe some form of circuit training with lighter goblet or Zercher squats prior to legs? Just a thought. Might still give your muscles the stimulation you're looking for without too heavy of a workload on the cardiovascular
system.
Again, talk with your Drs. first, but maybe that will be an option for you.

[almostgone]

Things went fairly well this evening. I hit a couple of new weights. Nothing like you guys are moving, but good for me. I swear every time I walk by my "supplement" stash I hear it talking to me and of course my Dr. is taking off the day I did have scheduled for my 6 month appointment and bloods. Rescheduled for 1 week later, so that is just a bit more time for me to prime/carb cycle. After that however I will "alter" things just a smidge for a short period.

Little bit of lower back and leg stretches and more broomstick stretches. LOL, chest is still talking to me.
Crunches- 2 x 90

Leg extensions- 2 w/u, Work-15+,drop,8+,drop,7+
Hacks-1 w/u, Work-11-5-3. Little to no knee complaints. I will add a quarter/ side next time and see how it goes.
Reverse hacks- Work-10-5-4. I do these in my angled leg press so the weight I'm moving isn't impressive, but I did bump it up to 400# today. It was kind of nice seeing a couple of 100# plates hanging off each side I did see spots after these but managed to keep good strong breathing going. Of course, the bracing just kicks @ss.
Seated calf raises- Work-14+,drop,10+
Standing calf raises- Work-14-8-6. New weight.
Leg press- 1 w/u, Work-7-3-1. New weight on these. Again it's light for you guys but I am moving 600# for good,solid reps. I make sure I bring the weight down until my lower back almost starts to round up somewhat. Saw spots again and short on air but I survived.
Leg curl-Work-15+,drop,7+,drop,11+ w/ a long 20 count hold on last partial. Very painful.

41 minutes not including stretches and crunches.

Arms are next in the rotation, so I think after that I will do a pull back for 1 rotation of body parts because I feel beat down just a little bit.

Edit: My walk is more of a waddle right now so this had to be productive.

[Hazard]

Well..... My daughter is home and in bed. Loves her bed and her new room so it was a success and well worth it :-)

My father is settled in now - says I got big lol. I'm pounding down 40gs of MHP's parabolic sr protein. It's a time released protein..... A little thick but it'll keep me "full" I guess.

Tmrw is back and tri's..... Mentally I'm fvckin ready. Can't wait! Off to sleep now

[clarky.]

Things went fairly well this evening. I hit a couple of new weights. Nothing like you guys are moving, but good for me. I swear every time I walk by my "supplement" stash I hear it talking to me and of course my Dr. is taking off the day I did have scheduled for my 6 month appointment and bloods. Rescheduled for 1 week later, so that is just a bit more time for me to prime/carb cycle. After that however I will "alter" things just a smidge for a short period.

Little bit of lower back and leg stretches and more broomstick stretches. LOL, chest is still talking to me.
Crunches- 2 x 90

Leg extensions- 2 w/u, Work-15+,drop,8+,drop,7+
Hacks-1 w/u, Work-11-5-3. Little to no knee complaints. I will add a quarter/ side next time and see how it goes.
Reverse hacks- Work-10-5-4. I do these in my angled leg press so the weight I'm moving isn't impressive, but I did bump it up to 400# today. It was kind of nice seeing a couple of 100# plates hanging off each side I did see spots after these but managed to keep good strong breathing going. Of course, the bracing just kicks @ss.
Seated calf raises- Work-14+,drop,10+
Standing calf raises- Work-14-8-6. New weight.
Leg press- 1 w/u, Work-7-3-1. New weight on these. Again it's light for you guys but I am moving 600# for good,solid reps. I make sure I bring the weight down until my lower back almost starts to round up somewhat. Saw spots again and short on air but I survived.
Leg curl-Work-15+,drop,7+,drop,11+ w/ a long 20 count hold on last partial. Very painful.

41 minutes not including stretches and crunches.

Arms are next in the rotation, so I think after that I will do a pull back for 1 rotation of body parts because I feel beat down just a little bit.

Edit: My walk is more of a waddle right now so this had to be productive.

nice session mate. Lmfao at the waddle i know what you mean i was like that last wk.

[clarky.]

Morning guys/girls tri's are sore this morning Pull back is going good just now i think i will do one more wk though. I do think i need it i my sessions are going good i do feel better but there is a few things going on that are a bit draining.

Bi's are still sore and back is just about healed lol going to hit delts and traps the day well that's the plan.

[DCI]

Fine. had to buy it! For leg day.
http://youtu.be/0iXqWwKamMk

Quality new vid haha.

Today is a day off from work meeting a buddy who got a M3 recently so going for a burn in that then off to the gym for back. My legs are still tight from tuesday.

Chest was last night it waa seriously intense.

[marcus300]

If you always put limit on everything you do, physical or anything else. It will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them.

Bruce Lee

[Splifton]

Woah new member and I happen to stumble upon this gold mine.

Quick question. What are your thoughts about the association with HIIT training and alteration to myocardium function being superior to traditional aerobic exercise that catered towards prolonged endurance?

Would you consider utilizing LISS in conjunction to a HIIT protocol or is the nature of the interval methodology create a fail-safe from the body successfully acclimating to the training? I've noticed interval training definitely brings about a state of glycogen depletion at a faster rate than traditional 45 minute steady state aerobic exercise. What's your thoughts considering you seem to be a master of this ideology from what I've read through so far.

[marcus300]

Woah new member and I happen to stumble upon this gold mine.

Quick question. What are your thoughts about the association with HIIT training and alteration to myocardium function being superior to traditional aerobic exercise that catered towards prolonged endurance?

Would you consider utilizing LISS in conjunction to a HIIT protocol or is the nature of the interval methodology create a fail-safe from the body successfully acclimating to the training? I've noticed interval training definitely brings about a state of glycogen depletion at a faster rate than traditional 45 minute steady state aerobic exercise. What's your thoughts considering you seem to be a master of this ideology from what I've read through so far.

Hello

Its HIT thread not HIIT

My advice would be to start reading from page one to understand what the thread is about.

[Splifton]

Oh....My apologies! I honestly don't even know how I blatantly misinterpreted the title.

Still, this is a wealth of information! My bad about the irrelevant badgering.

[marcus300]

Felt nausea yesterday but not sure if it's the bystolic or not. So far so good.

That link I sent about the new med I also clicked on the sides....and that list is crazy. I'm gonna keep an eye out on everything. Which is kinda making me nervous about hitting weights again. Until I give it a week or two.

Hang in there mate,

we are all with you on this

[marcus300]

Oh....My apologies! I honestly don't even know how I blatantly misinterpreted the title.

Still, this is a wealth of information! My bad about the irrelevant badgering.

Yes anything over 3 letters we kind of disregard, its one of the rules of HIT unless its cvnt then we can understand it but why not post your question in the workout section and I will answer it for you. Thanks

[marcus300]

Back

warm up my RC's - no matter what I am training it seems to be a thing I do

Bent over BB rows
3 warm up sets
1 working set to failure - hit some serious weight seeing that it was my first movement

cybex seated one arm rows
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced 2 negs - sick weight

D ring wide grip pulldowns
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced and 2 negs

straight arm pull downs
2 working sets to failure - higher end reps

hyper ext
2 working sets - weighted

45 degree hyper
2 working with weight higher end reps

Concentrated of thickness because I just want to make it go dark when I stand sideways

[NACH3]

Back

warm up my RC's - no matter what I am training it seems to be a thing I do

Bent over BB rows
3 warm up sets
1 working set to failure - hit some serious weight seeing that it was my first movement
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cybex seated one arm rows
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced 2 negs - sick weight
D ring wide grip pulldowns
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced and 2 negs
straight arm pull downs
2 working sets to failure - higher end reps
hyper ext
2 working sets - weighted
45 degree hyper
2 working with weight higher end reps
Concentrated of thickness because I just want to make it go dark when I stand sideways

The RC ex's have been doing wonders for me, also! Since joining the thread I've been doing them every w/o too and definitely noticing a difference!

My delts and traps were definitely tortured yesterday nice and sore(a constant deep dull ache)

[Hazard]

Back

warm up my RC's - no matter what I am training it seems to be a thing I do

Bent over BB rows
3 warm up sets
1 working set to failure - hit some serious weight seeing that it was my first movement

cybex seated one arm rows
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced 2 negs - sick weight

D ring wide grip pulldowns
2 feel sets
1 working set to failure plus 2 forced and 2 negs

straight arm pull downs
2 working sets to failure - higher end reps

hyper ext
2 working sets - weighted

45 degree hyper
2 working with weight higher end reps

Concentrated of thickness because I just want to make it go dark when I stand sideways

Perfect..... Now I have to get in there and match it it today!

I feel a little extra motivation with my father being there. I've got nothing to prove but ill be damned if I don't toss around some serious weight hah

[marcus300]

Perfect..... Now I have to get in there and match it it today!

I feel a little extra motivation with my father being there. I've got nothing to prove but ill be damned if I don't toss around some serious weight hah

Warm up and make that working set and reps count, no matter what you work your arse off and don't waste reps or sets on just going through the motions. This is what we do and we got to ignite the fire within to be different, keep strong mentally and show those fuking weights we mean business and tell your body it needs to adapt and grow bigger to withstand the assault you keep giving it.

Now go and sort it Haz and report back late

[NACH3]

Back for me also! ^^ adaptation/overload principle - your body it'll get used to it

I'm supposed to lift w/my new future employees - I'm hoping they let me train like I want(in fact I'll call my boss and ask... B/c if not and he wants to do KB stuff/cardio etc - I'll lift b4 I can't not do HIT! I'll see if I can explain it to him - and I'll even say if anyone can keep up then feel free to join me - but don't slow me down haha

[Hazard]

Warm up and make that working set and reps count, no matter what you work your arse off and don't waste reps or sets on just going through the motions. This is what we do and we got to ignite the fire within to be different, keep strong mentally and show those fuking weights we mean business and tell your body it needs to adapt and grow bigger to withstand the assault you keep giving it.

Now go and sort it Haz and report back late

Love it..... Will do big guy. Fueling up with egg whites, turkey bacon, and oatmeal

[kelkel]

My advice would be to start reading from page one to understand what the thread is about.

@ Splifton. You'll also learn the characters involved and what motivates them. It'll take time but please read it.

[Splifton]

I really have a question about carbohydrate periodization and subsequent glycogen supercompensation mechanism. Should I post it in the diet?

I'm on like page 5. I feel this thread benefits me more than trying to finish my demonic homework. "Establish the significance of the Gate Control Theory and its impact on the progression of neurological understanding."

PFFFFTTTTTTTTTT.

[marcus300]

I really have a question about carbohydrate periodization and subsequent glycogen supercompensation mechanism. Should I post it in the diet?

I'm on like page 5. I feel this thread benefits me more than trying to finish my demonic homework. "Establish the significance of the Gate Control Theory and its impact on the progression of neurological understanding."

PFFFFTTTTTTTTTT.

Yes post your question in the diet section.

[clarky.]

Will do delts and traps the mora never got there the day.

[DCI]

Got a very fast back and bi session in today. Over ran with my buddy in his car taking shit so had to be fast in the gym luckily it was empty.

So started with pull ups for a warm up.

Moved onto yates style lat pull downs for 2 feeler one heavy set as great muscles were filling fast with blood and mind muscle connection was very good also.

Then onto db single rows two heavy sets no drops.

Then bb bent over rows two heavy and one drop.

To finish seated hammerstrength rows back felt good great flow.

Then to bis all very fast but straight bar curls, db curls and pulley machine curls got a.decent blood flow.

Wasnt the best session in the world due to the time limitations I had but felt good.

[clarky.]

Got a very fast back and bi session in today. Over ran with my buddy in his car taking shit so had to be fast in the gym luckily it was empty.

So started with pull ups for a warm up.

Moved onto yates style lat pull downs for 2 feeler one heavy set as great muscles were filling fast with blood and mind muscle connection was very good also.

Then onto db single rows two heavy sets no drops.

Then bb bent over rows two heavy and one drop.

To finish seated hammerstrength rows back felt good great flow.

Then to bis all very fast but straight bar curls, db curls and pulley machine curls got a.decent blood flow.

Wasnt the best session in the world due to the time limitations I had but felt good.

Good stuff mate you still got in there and done your stuff.

[Hazard]

Had a great session at the gym with the old man. Stepped on the scale - 270lbs today.

My back is definately wider. Delts are popping and traps are big. Everything is falling into place. Consistency is key.....

[NACH3]

@ Haz 270 - damn brotha that's some serious weight -

BACK - very intense - fast paced and wanted to see if less = More which by the feel of it - yes indeed!

Wide pulldowns for warm up

1. Straight arm pulldowns w/rope - 2 warm ups 2w DD -- Lats were on fiya

2. CG pulldowns - 2 warm ups into 1w DD

3. BB Bent overs(pulling nice weight) - 2 feelers - heavy 1w DD

4. Old school T-Bar rows - 2 feelers - heavy(new weight) 1w drop
Spent by this time but...

5. Deads - pyramided up to 4 hard heavy reps - DD(stayed at same weight) failing on both around 6-8 reps

6. Weighted hypers 2w higher end reps

I'm fvkin spent - eeights done in 39min fvk I was in that zone - cardio 20min done

[clarky.]

@ Haz 270 - damn brotha that's some serious weight -

BACK - very intense - fast paced and wanted to see if less = More which by the feel of it - yes indeed!

Wide pulldowns for warm up

1. Straight arm pulldowns w/rope - 2 warm ups 2w DD -- Lats were on fiya

2. CG pulldowns - 2 warm ups into 1w DD

3. BB Bent overs(pulling nice weight) - 2 feelers - heavy 1w DD

4. Old school T-Bar rows - 2 feelers - heavy(new weight) 1w drop
Spent by this time but...

5. Deads - pyramided up to 4 hard heavy reps - DD(stayed at same weight) failing on both around 6-8 reps

6. Weighted hypers 2w higher end reps

I'm fvkin spent - eeights done in 39min fvk I was in that zone - cardio 20min done

Aye ok . I'll give you that one nachy boy good session

[Sfla80]

Barely made it to cardio probably should not have gone.

Feel like complete ass. Not sure if it's the new meds or I'm getting sick.

Very weak, nauseous and cold....ugh.

Anyone experienced with beta blocker know if this is normal. Doc closed by the time I could call.

[NACH3]

Barely made it to cardio probably should not have gone.

Feel like complete ass. Not sure if it's the new meds or I'm getting sick.

Very weak, nauseous and cold....ugh.

Anyone experienced with beta blocker know if this is normal. Doc closed by the time I could call.

Hope it's just the acclimation to the meds, Sfla! Hang in there buddy!

[Sfla80]

Hope it's just the acclimation to the meds, Sfla! Hang in there buddy!

Actually (unless it's all related) took temp....100.8...so that explains it

[NACH3]

Actually (unless it's all related) took temp....100.8...so that explains it

Low grade fevers make ya feel just enough like shit man :/ - well that's a tad higher than low grade - sux - hope ya feel better quick!

Is the wife sick(er) than usual? Or just sympathy pains/sickness - I hear that's true?!

[Sfla80]

Low grade fevers make ya feel just enough like shit man :/ - well that's a tad higher than low grade - sux - hope ya feel better quick!

Is the wife sick? Or just sympathy pains

She's fine....I honestly don't care if I get sick or not. Worried about if she does...we actually just talked about it. :/

[GirlyGymRat]

Sfla. Keep your spirits high! Chin up! We are all pulling for you.

[kelkel]

Had a great session at the gym with the old man. Stepped on the scale - 270lbs today.

My back is definately wider. Delts are popping and traps are big. Everything is falling into place. Consistency is key.....

That's a shitload of weight Haz!

[Splifton]

Ahhh now I see why your huge. You kind of took your own little spin on Mike Mentnzer's training methodology.

You also have some pretty inspirational little posts in there about getting in the zone. Definitely something to read for motivation I think.