Anyone that wants to help

[TheTaxMan]

This thread is getting way out of control and childish. The OP is no longer responding and its now turning into sling shots of abuse.

OP, you have been given solid advice from members who are very knowledgeable (wether or not a lot of their posts including mine are also from welcoming new members in the introduction section, they still know what they are talking about)

Here2grow is saying he enjoys sides etc, thats fair enough but you arent being warned about side effects, you are being warned of the potential risk of messing with your immature system that is still yet to develop (it may be fully developed, but it also may not be) and if you mess it up you can lead to problems for the rest of your life, if you wait until 25 years old the chance of your system maturing is very high, this is why we always advise members to not cycle until that age.

Talking of the past where it wasnt advised to cycle at particular ages, it also wasnt advised about PCT etc if you go back pre year 2000. More drugs are being created and more tests and knowedge is growing. In ten years time there will probably be things that we are doing wrong or could improve in our cycles that we may not yet be aware of, but the safest UP TO DATE advice is being given here and always will do.

Please do let us know your decision, if you want to still cycle thats up to you, we will still give you the best advice on the right cycle and pct etc. But really take a long time to consider your options and read up on young taking steroids.

[here2grow]

This thread is getting way out of control and childish. The OP is no longer responding and its now turning into sling shots of abuse.

OP, you have been given solid advice from members who are very knowledgeable (wether or not a lot of their posts including mine are also from welcoming new members in the introduction section, they still know what they are talking about)

Here2grow is saying he enjoys sides etc, thats fair enough but you arent being warned about side effects, you are being warned of the potential risk of messing with your immature system that is still yet to develop (it may be fully developed, but it also may not be) and if you mess it up you can lead to problems for the rest of your life, if you wait until 25 years old the chance of your system maturing is very high, this is why we always advise members to not cycle until that age.

Talking of the past where it wasnt advised to cycle at particular ages, it also wasnt advised about PCT etc if you go back pre year 2000. More drugs are being created and more tests and knowedge is growing. In ten years time there will probably be things that we are doing wrong or could improve in our cycles that we may not yet be aware of, but the safest UP TO DATE advice is being given here and always will do.

Please do let us know your decision, if you want to still cycle thats up to you, we will still give you the best advice on the right cycle and pct etc. But really take a long time to consider your options and read up on young taking steroids.

Tax I got nothing against you man. I see how you help and act towards others!! New & old members. Total respect to you. If more people on here were like you this place will improve 100%

But think about it. yes I gave the wrong advice. BUT If nash said nicely, Please read this (posted a link for me to read) Then said, Have another think about your post here2grow that you just wrote up for a 22 year old.

I would of edit it right away and NEVER repeat it again, But it seem like these guys want to attack anyone first and say Shit, Dumb, Low post, Idiot advice, Your fat picture, You drink and drive, Your anavar is for girls only. And then his whole bum chum clan have to join in and attack also.

Nash told me no price talk on the other thread and go see for yourself..Before all this started & In 2min I changed it, See I'm learning & you can't expect us all to know the rules right off the bat. Time and patients man.

It just seems easier for these high post pricks to drill the new guys as soon as they say one thing wrong instead of teaching them in a nice way. Treat people how you want to be treated.

lol I don't enjoy all sides I like getting them so I know my gear is not bunk. The only side effect I want is to be on TRT Don't think of TRT as a side effect later on... Think of it as a blessing.

[TheTaxMan]

Tax I got nothing against you man. I see how you help and act towards others!! New & old members. Total respect to you. If more people on here were like you this place will improve 100%

But think about it. yes I gave the wrong advice. BUT If nash said nicely, Please read this (posted a link for me to read) Then said, Have another think about your post here2grow that you just wrote up for a 22 year old.

I would of edit it right away and NEVER repeat it again, But it seem like these guys want to attack anyone first and say Shit, Dumb, Low post, Idiot advice, Your fat picture, You drink and drive, Your anavar is for girls only. And then his whole bum chum clan have to join in and attack also.

Nash told me no price talk on the other thread and go see for yourself..Before all this started & In 2min I changed it, See I'm learning & you can't expect us all to know the rules right off the bat. Time and patients man.

It just seems easier for these high post pricks to drill the new guys as soon as they say one thing wrong instead of teaching them in a nice way. Treat people how you want to be treated.

lol I don't enjoy all sides I like getting them so I know my gear is not bunk. The only side effect I want is to be on TRT Don't think of TRT as a side effect later on... Think of it as a blessing.

Thanks
I dont have anything against you and i dont think anyone has anything against anyone, sometimes things get out of hand and heated for no reason, sometimes reading txt can sound worse than one is meaning, and we react to it.

Nach has disagreed with a couple of your posts, hes disagreed with many of mine, but i still pm him and ask him for his advice and he ALWAYS replies and helps me.
sometimes you have to respect that other members are more knowledgable, its not for them to glorify, you can see this because they are first to help EVERYONE, but also not afraid to disagree. They dont get paid for it they choose to dedicate their time to help others, and i think that deserves respect in itself.

Rash posts like yours suggesting a cycle straight away will cause a chain reaction other others jumping in.
(I agree the OP has a high chance of going with a cycle anyway or joining a different forum, but we dont just jump in and kind of say, "go for it" we need to take a slow approach and after a lot of advice they still choose to cycle then we can try to suggest a sensible cycle, but this has to be last resort)

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I did also say this in the start of my reply

"This thread is getting way out of control and childish. The OP is no longer responding and its now turning into sling shots of abuse"

Which is equal to us all

Lets all move forward and leave it be

[here2grow]

Thanks
I dont have anything against you and i dont think anyone has anything against anyone, sometimes things get out of hand and heated for no reason, sometimes reading txt can sound worse than one is meaning, and we react to it.

Nach has disagreed with a couple of your posts, hes disagreed with many of mine, but i still pm him and ask him for his advice and he ALWAYS replies and helps me.
sometimes you have to respect that other members are more knowledgable, its not for them to glorify, you can see this because they are first to help EVERYONE, but also not afraid to disagree. They dont get paid for it they choose to dedicate their time to help others, and i think that deserves respect in itself.

Rash posts like yours suggesting a cycle straight away will cause a chain reaction other others jumping in.
(I agree the OP has a high chance of going with a cycle anyway or joining a different forum, but we dont just jump in and kind of say, "go for it" we need to take a slow approach and after a lot of advice they still choose to cycle then we can try to suggest a sensible cycle, but this has to be last resort)

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I did also say this in the start of my reply

"This thread is getting way out of control and childish. The OP is no longer responding and its now turning into sling shots of abuse"

Which is equal to us all

Lets all move forward and leave it be

LOL and Thanks for making it a bit more clearer tax and I total agree, So I take back what i had to say about the post counts and the name calling.

Sorry guys and thanks for dedicating all your time (pay free) to help others in need and safely too. That in its self is priceless.