**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[almostgone]

My rc is killing me, ive been doing 20 mins worth of internal and external rotations, all sorts of stretches and its really bad. I don't want to have surgery because so many tell me it doesn't work and the time out.

I think my next option is two weeks off shoulders and chest?

what do you guys think?

can I last 2 weeks with chest and shoulders

I know you can last 2 weeks, but I just read the link about prolotherapy that Kel posted and that sounds like it would be well worth investigating. Much less invasive and if I'm reading it correctly, you would be "repairing" yourself vs. invasive surgery.
The guys that I know that have gone the RC route are either marginally improved or in worse shape than they were prior to surgery.

[Hazard]

Hair question.... Do you guys have issues? Im starting to thin quickly, 500mgs of deca with my 180mgs of cyp. Have you guys used anything successfully? I want to run a bit of tren after this but Ill be bald at this rate. Thanks for replies.

I'm looking for a miracle myself......

[almostgone]

OK, so I went ahead and went back to the Dr.this afternoon. She asked me to take tonight off and stay off this leg. She want to have another MRI done tomorrow and just to play it safe since I have a history of throwing clots, they're also going to do an ultrasound?
She is extremely pleased with my range of motion, but isn't particularly thrilled with the amount of bruising/blood that is still visible.
Should be back at it soon. Guess I get to watch the wife holler at the TV tonight. She's a diehard Clemson fan. I'm not really a diehard football fan, but since I grew up in Alabama when I was young, I'm giving her a hard time.

[Sfla80]

OK, so I went ahead and went back to the Dr.this afternoon. She asked me to take tonight off and stay off this leg. She want to have another MRI done tomorrow and just to play it safe since I have a history of throwing clots, they're also going to do an ultrasound?
She is extremely pleased with my range of motion, but isn't particularly thrilled with the amount of bruising/blood that is still visible.
Should be back at it soon. Guess I get to watch the wife holler at the TV tonight. She's a diehard Clemson fan. I'm not really a diehard football fan, but since I grew up in Alabama when I was young, I'm giving her a hard time.

Hope it comes back positive again.

Ultrasound on ur leg never heard of....interesting

[Sfla80]

Question for u guys about pain/injury.

When do u go to doc? Ag obviously had visual signs and extreme pain.

My left knee as had pain fir about 2.5- 3 wks now. Pain is a constant "4" maybe...with spurts of 7ish.

Can't squat with feeling like an old man.

Funny thing is this all started while off the gym for about a week ....


Haye to pay for a unnecessary mri....

[Bodacious]

OK, so I went ahead and went back to the Dr.this afternoon. She asked me to take tonight off and stay off this leg. She want to have another MRI done tomorrow and just to play it safe since I have a history of throwing clots, they're also going to do an ultrasound?
She is extremely pleased with my range of motion, but isn't particularly thrilled with the amount of bruising/blood that is still visible.
Should be back at it soon. Guess I get to watch the wife holler at the TV tonight. She's a diehard Clemson fan. I'm not really a diehard football fan, but since I grew up in Alabama when I was young, I'm giving her a hard time.

Dang AG good luck hope everything checks out okay for you.

[Bodacious]

Question for u guys about pain/injury.

When do u go to doc? Ag obviously had visual signs and extreme pain.

My left knee as had pain fir about 2.5- 3 wks now. Pain is a constant "4" maybe...with spurts of 7ish.

Can't squat with feeling like an old man.

Funny thing is this all started while off the gym for about a week ....


Haye to pay for a unnecessary mri....

Sfla... why not go ahead and go see the Doc since it's been hurting you for awhile now. They might not even recommend you have an MRI just yet. Maybe PT?? I know with my insurance I have to do 4 weeks of PT unless I went to the ER... anyways good luck and try and rest it as much as possible.

[Bodacious]

Chest is already getting sore from today.

[Sfla80]

Sfla... why not go ahead and go see the Doc since it's been hurting you for awhile now. They might not even recommend you have an MRI just yet. Maybe PT?? I know with my insurance I have to do 4 weeks of PT unless I went to the ER... anyways good luck and try and rest it as much as possible.

Yeah maybe no mri...that's the only thing keeping me from going.

Every damn cat scan I get cost me about 500 out of pocket.

Can't imagine mri :/

[almostgone]

Hope it comes back positive again.

Ultrasound on ur leg never heard of....interesting

The ultrasound is because I have stupid blood and I make/throw clots very easily. Guess the Dr. is just playing it safe.

[Sfla80]

The ultrasound is because I have stupid blood and I make/throw clots very easily. Guess the Dr. is just playing it safe.

Makes sense.

Legs have a major artery don't they? Both sides or just the left. .. (stupid question I know lol)

[Sfla80]

BTW I'm with ur wife tonight.....can't stand Alabama

Good game though so far

[almostgone]

Question for u guys about pain/injury.

When do u go to doc? Ag obviously had visual signs and extreme pain.

My left knee as had pain fir about 2.5- 3 wks now. Pain is a constant "4" maybe...with spurts of 7ish.

Can't squat with feeling like an old man.

Funny thing is this all started while off the gym for about a week ....


Haye to pay for a unnecessary mri....

I would get it checked out, Sfla. It may be that a short run of Nsaids takes care of the issue. On the other hand, if it is something that needs attention, you don't want to put it off for too long and possibly make it worse.
Maybe a light knee brace like the Ptex Kel has posted about before would help? I imagine you're on your feet a good bit during rush hours @ work?

[Sfla80]

I would get it checked out, Sfla. It may be that a short run of Nsaids takes care of the issue. On the other hand, if it is something that needs attention, you don't want to put it off for too long and possibly make it worse.
Maybe a light knee brace like the Ptex Kel has posted about before would help? I imagine you're on your feet a good bit during rush hours @ work?

Was thinking the being on my feet and maybe no padding in shoes

[clarky.]

Morning guys and girls life's been mad since the end of last wk so not been on and a never even got a session in sat/sun. I had to do chest yesterday as i usually do this at the wk end i fvcking hate doing chest on a monday.
Anyway incline db press/fly for a warm up and a good stretch.

Incline db press 1 working DD **new weight**

Inclune db fly 1 working +rp 1 drop Bump up next time

Slight incline db press 1 working 1 drop

Slight incline db press 1 working +rp

Cable fly 3 sets

Cardio 20min and done.

Chest is very sore this morning feeling good and raring to go later. Think i'll do bi's the night i'll see how busy it is.
No time to catch up guys i'll do it the night hope yous are all well.

[Hazard]

My sleep is all sorts of fvcked up with this new job. I can't get on a schedule. I'm napping during the day, I get to bed at about 3:30-4am on work nights. Sleep until 12pm but wake up tired. 3 days on 2 off then 1 on and 1 off again. It's pissing me off..... I miss going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6-7am

[DCI]

I'm the same way dci....back width...but this thread has got me up and going....feeling better about it now. But definitely always my main focus. ROWS!! Lol

I've always done lots of rows but still not growing in the way I would like it tbh. It will develop I just need to find the grove for it that will make it grow.

[almostgone]

Was thinking the being on my feet and maybe no padding in shoes

Oh man, I can tell when it is time for new work boots. My knees and one of my hips get really start complaining. Standing/walking/working on concrete floors are h*ll on the joints.

[almostgone]

My sleep is all sorts of fvcked up with this new job. I can't get on a schedule. I'm napping during the day, I get to bed at about 3:30-4am on work nights. Sleep until 12pm but wake up tired. 3 days on 2 off then 1 on and 1 off again. It's pissing me off..... I miss going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6-7am

Welcome to my world, buddy! I've worked third shift 6-7 days/week for the last 13+ years and it screws with your system for sure.

[krugerr]

My sleep is all sorts of fvcked up with this new job. I can't get on a schedule. I'm napping during the day, I get to bed at about 3:30-4am on work nights. Sleep until 12pm but wake up tired. 3 days on 2 off then 1 on and 1 off again. It's pissing me off..... I miss going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6-7am

Mate I can only partially sympathise. It must suck royally!
I work 9-5 monday to friday. Then I work 10pm-3am on Friday and Saturday night. It just throws my whole sleep pattern out and its like being permanently jet lagged.

[Bodacious]

My sleep is all sorts of fvcked up with this new job. I can't get on a schedule. I'm napping during the day, I get to bed at about 3:30-4am on work nights. Sleep until 12pm but wake up tired. 3 days on 2 off then 1 on and 1 off again. It's pissing me off..... I miss going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6-7am

Damn that's crazy....

[Bodacious]

Good morning everyone....

Chest is nice and sore this morning. Have a few things to do before I go in and hit some legs today. Leg session is going to be nice and short but very sweet.

Hope everyone has a good day.

[Bio-Active]

Good morning hitters

I been fighting a light head cold the last few days but feeling much better today. I'm on one today so I'm hitting some caffein and off to the gym to destroy my back

[NACH3]

Hair question....

Do you guys have issues? Im starting to thin quickly, 500mgs of deca with my 180mgs of cyp. Have you guys used anything successfully? I want to run a bit of tren after this but Ill be bald at this rate.
Thanks for replies.

i can think of a person.... Fitguy?!?!

[kelkel]

BTW I'm with ur wife tonight.....

Hmmm. You and AG have some kind of arrangement?

[marcus300]

My sleep is all sorts of fvcked up with this new job. I can't get on a schedule. I'm napping during the day, I get to bed at about 3:30-4am on work nights. Sleep until 12pm but wake up tired. 3 days on 2 off then 1 on and 1 off again. It's pissing me off..... I miss going to bed at 10 and waking up at 6-7am

I know how you feel Haz I suffer all the time with sleep but it is brought on by my own doing. Try and catch up one day soon mate

[almostgone]

Hmmm. You and AG have some kind of arrangement?

Yes sir, but he isn't honoring the terms of the contract. I'm still having to haul.off trash to the dump and I haven't seen any fancy dinners left in the fridge for me. ,

[NACH3]

Morning guys/gals

I took yesterday off(8hrs of KB training and I was tired everywhere)... Fueling up and ready to go!

[Sfla80]

Lmafo....walked right into that huh

[kelkel]

Lmafo....walked right into that huh

Whatever you guys do at home is just fine with us.

[Sfla80]

Just got done with back.

Underhand grip pull downs 2 warms 1 f 1w Dd (love these)

Tbar rows 1 feel 1 w (3 45s and a 10) 1d

DB rows 2w

Low pully hammers 1 w 1d

Standing straight arm pull downs

Wanted to do deads but not sure with my knee....probably shouldn't have done tbars but it wasn't bad.

Probably skip legs until I get it checked out.

Waiting for haircut now (high and tight...don't have to hair loss issue lol....I actually could give away my hair and still have tons left over)

[Sfla80]

Whatever you guys do at home is just fine with us.

Just don't tell my wife hahhaha

[marcus300]

Hello gentlemen

how are we today?

I wont be training for a couple of days due to a lot of work I need to do but I can tell you I need to the rest.

My consultant appointment has been put back to Feb now due to more blood work required, I really think its all telling me to stop cycling for good and just stay healthy. It is something I am considering

I don't like being in the dark about things, its like that over here in the UK not as open as the States but early next month I should have a clear picture of what is going to happen and if I require further treatment or I am good to be discharged.

Always remember the importance of a pullback, this kind of training is extremely hard on you I know the younger guys can take a lot of punishment but please always take a pullback for as long as possible to get things repaired and you fully recovered.

[Bodacious]

Hello gentlemen

how are we today?

I wont be training for a couple of days due to a lot of work I need to do but I can tell you I need to the rest.

My consultant appointment has been put back to Feb now due to more blood work required, I really think its all telling me to stop cycling for good and just stay healthy. It is something I am considering

I don't like being in the dark about things, its like that over here in the UK not as open as the States but early next month I should have a clear picture of what is going to happen and if I require further treatment or I am good to be discharged.

Always remember the importance of a pullback, this kind of training is extremely hard on you I know the younger guys can take a lot of punishment but please always take a pullback for as long as possible to get things repaired and you fully recovered.

Hang in there big guy!! We are all here for ya. Thanks for everything you do in here and on this site.

[Bio-Active]

wide grip lat pull downs 1 warm 2 working sets

Reverse grip pull downs same as above

Seated rows

close grip pulls

bent over rows

Did some calf raises in between sets

30 minutes cardio and done

[Bodacious]

Did legs this morning...OMG didn't even get to really hit them that hard because they filled with blood fast and got tired fast. Overall it was a good workout... will try and post after I get done eating...

**** yea..

[DCI]

Chest tonight gonna hit the 120lb dbs as its the first gym that has then in such a long time be a good challenge.

Just at home eating and chilling before I go.

[Sfla80]

Hello gentlemen

how are we today?

I wont be training for a couple of days due to a lot of work I need to do but I can tell you I need to the rest.

My consultant appointment has been put back to Feb now due to more blood work required, I really think its all telling me to stop cycling for good and just stay healthy. It is something I am considering

I don't like being in the dark about things, its like that over here in the UK not as open as the States but early next month I should have a clear picture of what is going to happen and if I require further treatment or I am good to be discharged.

Always remember the importance of a pullback, this kind of training is extremely hard on you I know the younger guys can take a lot of punishment but please always take a pullback for as long as possible to get things repaired and you fully recovered.

Hang in there marcus.

And X2 on the pull back. Really makes a difference. ...

[kelkel]

My consultant appointment has been put back to Feb now due to more blood work required, I really think its all telling me to stop cycling for good and just stay healthy. It is something I am considering

I don't like being in the dark about things, its like that over here in the UK not as open as the States but early next month I should have a clear picture of what is going to happen and if I require further treatment or I am good to be discharged.

Marcus I took well over a decade off due to work and the fear of losing my job years ago. If you choose to do this you'll be amazed at what you can maintain with your knowledge base coupled with TRT. I was not on TRT at that time but still felt and looked just fine. And this, imho, comes down to work ethic, drive and motivation which you without question possess. I even took a year off of training when my son was born. Never felt that I really lost much at all. One thing I did do was to hit the mirror at home and pose frequently, which in my mind helped maintain that mind-muscle connection.

In other words, if you have to do this it's just a bump in the road that you can climb over. AAS did not make you who you are. That comes from inside of you.

Be well.

[marcus300]

Marcus I took well over a decade off due to work and the fear of losing my job years ago. If you choose to do this you'll be amazed at what you can maintain with your knowledge base coupled with TRT. I was not on TRT at that time but still felt and looked just fine. And this, imho, comes down to work ethic, drive and motivation which you without question possess. I even took a year off of training when my son was born. Never felt that I really lost much at all. One thing I did do was to hit the mirror at home and pose frequently, which in my mind helped maintain that mind-muscle connection.

In other words, if you have to do this it's just a bump in the road that you can climb over. AAS did not make you who you are. That comes from inside of you.

Be well.

Longest I've done is 4 years and that's when I was going through low T and sorting my levels out, I did post pictures of me in the 4 yrs free of aas and I did great to my training and diet. Ive never took a lot of time off training though I think 1 year would hurt me bad, Thanks for the input

(I will try and find the pic of me when I had done 4 yrs free from aas)