I have to tell you I had a good chuckle reading these posts. You've gotten some really good advice from two of the most knowledgeable vets on this forum telling you to start working out and stay away from any chemicals and you keep going back to the HGH/T4. It's premature for you to be taking HGH/T4 right now. You need to get into shape, reduce body fat, and define you baseline fitness before you start looking at taking HGH/T4. You will get better results and get more for your hard earned $$$ in the long run. HGH/T4 is a long term regiment, I've been on it over 7 years, so you need to establish your baseline before you start.