2nd Cycle: Test E, Anavar, Dbol

[somewhatjacked]

Based on my readings, its not recommended to bulk at 18% bf. Even test will aromatize especially because you want to bulk up = more food = more fat (not all the time, but I am saying this in your case coz you are already at 16-18%)

Aromatase (found in adipose tissue - fat) is responsible for the aromatization of androgens (test and dbol) into estrogens (yes i used wiki as a source - lol). You already have gyno so not sure if its a good idea to go down this path.

Senior members already mentioned anavar won't work and dbol (which is mostly water weight) is asking for gyno troubles.

PS: i am laughing at myself as I type this. I am around 15% bf with a history of gyno. And I want to do the exact same thing as you - lol.

Blood work is a must! Im for sure going to drop one of my two orals, I have not decided which one yet. I don't want to tax my liver too a point it harms my health. Most likely Dbol because of its aromatizing affects. I think with 25 mg of aromasin and with nolva on hand I should be able to beat gyno's ass this time. I have 16-18% Body fat, I have to get that checked again for up-to-date information. Will anavar still suit me? This cycle I hope to gain crazy mass and I don't want to bloat and look like the michelin man.

[BilluBarber]

Based on my readings, its not recommended to bulk at 18% bf. Even test will aromatize especially because you want to bulk up = more food = more fat (not all the time, but I am saying this in your case coz you are already at 16-18%)

Aromatase (found in adipose tissue - fat) is responsible for the aromatization of androgens (test and dbol) into estrogens (yes i used wiki as a source - lol). You already have gyno so not sure if its a good idea to go down this path.

Senior members already mentioned anavar won't work and dbol (which is mostly water weight) is asking for gyno troubles.

PS: i am laughing at myself as I type this. I am around 15% bf with a history of gyno. And I want to do the exact same thing as you - lol.

Understood. I just want to do more than a basic Test E cycle. Do you think Tbol would be better in my case? Or just the simple Test E cycle.

[kelkel]

I just want to do more than a basic Test E cycle. Do you think Tbol would be better in my case? Or just the simple Test E cycle.

Awful stubborn Billu. But at least you'll have nice tits!


JK. Some good advice from the guys above. Be patient as quality gains come slowly. Rushing things only leads to problems. Nail down your nutrition and training.

[BilluBarber]

Awful stubborn Billu. But at least you'll have nice tits!


JK. Some good advice from the guys above. Be patient as quality gains come slowly. Rushing things only leads to problems. Nail down your nutrition and training.

Understood Kelkel! Ill plan everything out and nail down my nutrition and training! I won't rush it. Ill stick to Test E only as for my second cycle.

[kelkel]

Understood Kelkel! Ill plan everything out and nail down my nutrition and training! I won't rush it. Ill stick to Test E only as for my second cycle.

Good man Billu. Don't fall into the thought process that the only way to make progress is to continually do more. Like Baxter said, nothing wrong with test only cycles. I've been in this game longer than you've been alive and I still frequently do test only cycles. They simply work.