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    Hcg I'm doing 250.2x a week. PCT is Nolvadex and clomid .I have 50 pills each at 50mg. I don't have my log in front of me but I got the daily amounts on here from a vet. I did . research but couldn't find if it required more pins due to the test p esters. And I do appreciate your knowledge. It frustrates me reading through stickies and other posts when I see comments that have already been answered through stickies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chefjmo View Post
    Hcg I'm doing 250.2x a week. PCT is Nolvadex and clomid .I have 50 pills each at 50mg. I don't have my log in front of me but I got the daily amounts on here from a vet. I did . research but couldn't find if it required more pins due to the test p esters. And I do appreciate your knowledge. It frustrates me reading through stickies and other posts when I see comments that have already been answered through stickies.
    This board has been around forever. The stickies are getting deep. It's almost like we need a "super sticky" category now.

    IMO and from research I have done and personal experience, 250iu 2x weekly HCG is too low. I would go 500 if two times per week if you ave enough to do so. better safe than sorry. HCG is pretty benign. Some research I have read has male subjects taking as much as 10K iu weekly. That is far too much, as these are research papers, nobody needs that much. Just making the point that you're not going to hurt yourself taking 500 2x wk. Its half life is pretty long. i don't have the numbers in front of me ATM but if I remember right it's 48-72 hours when taken SQ. 24-30 hours if IM.

    You don't have to inject Sust any more than any other long estered AAS because of the progressively longer esters. The first two are quite short and will hit you and be gone within 3-4 days but the 2 longer ones will remain in your system for up to 2 weeks in the last case, making sust injections less frequent, not more. Stability is not the same as it is with a single ester though for the same reasons so when I use Sust instead of E as my base I usually use a little more sust than I would E because the two longer esters also take longer for those first molecules to begin breaking down so it is not in your system for the first 4 days. I still do 2x week injections with sust. The decanoate form will build up doing this so I take more time off before beginning PCT, 3 weeks instead of 2. Continue HCG up until about 2 or 3 days before starting PCT or you will crash HARD if you just stop taking AAS and stop HCG for 2-3 weeks prior to PCT.

    Prop and Ace, if only ester in the product, then you'd want to inject every other day. With Acetate (ACE) I might even pin daily but I have never used test Acetate. It has the shortest half life of all of the esters. the only thing you could get with a lower half life would be TNE (test no ester) or Suspension but suspension hurts like hell and you wouldn't want to use TNE or suspension as anything but a power booster PreWO unless you want to inject every 6 hours for 12 weeks.

    BTW there is a search function here, and it works pretty well. it might help you find what you're looking for more easily than trudging through hundreds of threads.
    Last edited by Java Man; 02-28-2016 at 12:30 PM.

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