First cycle questions under genetic max

[Proximal]

As far as the dieting goes, I am very meticulous. With my current plan, I have been gaining steady strength and size gains (probably 4kg within 7 or so months). I could eat for 160, but that would also raise my body fat considerably. I was wondering if a cycle would, in a sense, allow me to train harder and speed my results. I don't mind working hard for gains, and I understand anabolics don't magically make you bigger. There just doesn't really seem to be much info on the effects of cycling for someone under genetic max, and my main concern, HPTA recovery.

Well, this is where I will partially sympathize with you and I will also very respectfully disagree with what is mentioned regarding eating as being so much of the solution. But this is just my opinion.

First and foremost, everything I've read about on this forum and other sources indicates that any cycle has risks to the HPTA, please respect that. Secondly, I think you need to lift more; you mentioned 6 months with good progress, why jump the gun so quickly?

O.K. with those things said - what I don't think some of the members on this forum have experienced is simply not responding to weight training, or responding very poorly. The frustration in trying everything you read about, and simply not responding. I am talking about solid, intelligent training and nutrition, with little response - enormously frustrating and honestly painful.

Please forgive the rant: at 57, with only 7 months of 150 mg./week, my body is better than it EVER has been; EVER, more muscle and less fat. There were was a period of at least 15 years (20's and 30's) in which I NEVER missed a workout and ate smart. I was a physical therapist and personal trainer before many of you were born - and despite my education/training, I could not improve, until now - at 57, after 2 total hips, with 150 mg. / week.

So that's my rant, and that's why I partially sympathize with you. Please, in my honest opinion, you are too young and need more training. Put in the time, maximize what you can get naturally - knowing that when the time comes; then you can get the boost that you need.

Sorry for the rant.

[InternalFire]

Well, this is where I will partially sympathize with you and I will also very respectfully disagree with what is mentioned regarding eating as being so much of the solution. But this is just my opinion.

First and foremost, everything I've read about on this forum and other sources indicates that any cycle has risks to the HPTA, please respect that. Secondly, I think you need to lift more; you mentioned 6 months with good progress, why jump the gun so quickly?

O.K. with those things said - what I don't think some of the members on this forum have experienced is simply not responding to weight training, or responding very poorly. The frustration in trying everything you read about, and simply not responding. I am talking about solid, intelligent training and nutrition, with little response - enormously frustrating and honestly painful.

Please forgive the rant: at 57, with only 7 months of 150 mg./week, my body is better than it EVER has been; EVER, more muscle and less fat. There were was a period of at least 15 years (20's and 30's) in which I NEVER missed a workout and ate smart. I was a physical therapist and personal trainer before many of you were born - and despite my education/training, I could not improve, until now - at 57, after 2 total hips, with 150 mg. / week.

So that's my rant, and that's why I partially sympathize with you. Please, in my honest opinion, you are too young and need more training. Put in the time, maximize what you can get naturally - knowing that when the time comes; then you can get the boost that you need.

Sorry for the rant.

Proximal, I must admit, you have nailed it here. Respect for sharp but just thoughts!

[kelkel]

Proximal, I must admit, you have nailed it here.

Twas very well said!