30y old, 263ng/dl, 1m of Testogel 50mg->Nebido. How are your Test levels on Nebido?

[Mr.BB]

Dont think you should get any testosterone, your free test is not bad and thats the most important.

Of course you should do what you want or desire, but TRT is not without problems.

About the bloodwork, did you have any infection?

Your vit D is very low, if you supplement it to make it higher your testosterone will also raise.

Your thyroid is also starting to get lazy, TSH close to 2 and free T4 on low side. You should keep testing it in the future, or maybe supplement some iodine and retrest.

[iron885]

Dont think you should get any testosterone, your free test is not bad and thats the most important.

Of course you should do what you want or desire, but TRT is not without problems.

About the bloodwork, did you have any infection?

Your vit D is very low, if you supplement it to make it higher your testosterone will also raise.

Your thyroid is also starting to get lazy, TSH close to 2 and free T4 on low side. You should keep testing it in the future, or maybe supplement some iodine and retrest.

One of the most respected endo in the world (Abraham Morgenthaler - Harvard) says if you are sub 350, you don't even have to look at other values, because its way too low for Total Test. I know free test plays an important role, but from what i've read if your TT is that low, it doesn't even matter anymore what your Free T is.

He even states that even if your TT is 500 if you show symptoms (which i do, all of them) you can still suffer from too Low T.

And Nope no Infection. Thanks for your input.

Oh and i supplement with Vit D already. Daily

I am not trying to be insensitive toward someone trying to boost their testosterone through what they see as a reasonable alternative, but I just do not see the wisdom here. For example, let's take a hypogonadal male that has total testosterone of 300 ng/dl who starts megadosing iodine. He might get a boost up to 450 ng/dl. Now that increase is a nice increase, but it is probably not going to make that much of a difference for him. And he is risking hypothyroidism and goiter for this relatively small boost.

Goiter. A goiter is basically an enlarged thyroid gland and is associated with hypothyroidism, hyperthyroidism and in some cases probably thyroid cancer.

not allowed to post urls yet but its from peaktestosterone.com

But I've read that too low iodine might be the reason for increased estradiol and I seem to have big problems with E2. So I've just ordered some off of Amazon. 150micrograms a day is what I've read should be used (=100% of daily need and not megadosing. seems like only megadosing makes an "substantial" impact. But still 36% increasee (which he states) is still fairly low. That would put me to 357,68.

[Mr.BB]

One of the most respected endo in the world (Abraham Morgenthaler - Harvard) says if you are sub 350, you don't even have to look at other values, because its way too low for Total Test. I know free test plays an important role, but from what i've read if your TT is that low, it doesn't even matter anymore what your Free T is.

He even states that even if your TT is 500 if you show symptoms (which i do, all of them) you can still suffer from too Low T.

Total testosterone is comprised of globulin binded testosterone (SHBG), albumin binded testosterone and free testosterone. SHBG is a non-active testosterone, all non-SHBG-bound testosterone is considered bioavailable. You have very low SHBG which should also mean low free T, but in your case for some reason it doesnt, your free T is quite normal.
If you decide to go TRT by all means do it, truly think that men should be free to do what they want with their hormones (its a steroid board lol), but just make usre you know all the risks and consequences.
Unfortunnaly some ppl start TRT just to band aid symptoms of low T without solving the underlying problem causing the low T. Low T is ussualy not a condition but a symptom of something else, speccially before 40.

And Nope no Infection. Thanks for your input.

Oh and i supplement with Vit D already. Daily

High lymphocyte count and high antistreptolysin is pretty definite for an infection. Why your doc tested antistreptolysin?? its ussually only tested when is suspected of strep infection. Have your doc seen the results yet? Might only be some sore throat heheh

If you supplement Vit D and you are still that low, either you are not absorving it or you are supplemmenting to little.

Are you supplementing DHEA?

[iron885]

Total testosterone is comprised of globulin binded testosterone (SHBG), albumin binded testosterone and free testosterone. SHBG is a non-active testosterone, all non-SHBG-bound testosterone is considered bioavailable. You have very low SHBG which should also mean low free T, but in your case for some reason it doesnt, your free T is quite normal.
If you decide to go TRT by all means do it, truly think that men should be free to do what they want with their hormones (its a steroid board lol), but just make usre you know all the risks and consequences.
Unfortunnaly some ppl start TRT just to band aid symptoms of low T without solving the underlying problem causing the low T. Low T is ussualy not a condition but a symptom of something else, speccially before 40.



High lymphocyte count and high antistreptolysin is pretty definite for an infection. Why your doc tested antistreptolysin?? its ussually only tested when is suspected of strep infection. Have your doc seen the results yet? Might only be some sore throat heheh

If you supplement Vit D and you are still that low, either you are not absorving it or you are supplemmenting to little.

Are you supplementing DHEA?

Not supplementing DHEA. My doc didn't say anything to those results he said everything else is fairly normal. Actually I gave the results to two different docs. the last one is a pretty well respected doc who also does a lot of publications in journals. He said that its a problem of my balls. They don't want to produce although the "signal" is strong enough from the Brain...

Its not that i want it so badly (go on TRT) but 1) I have so low energy, that since 1year+ i avoid any contact with friends and don't go out anymore, i have so low libido, that i had to always throw in vi a gra and get myself rly motivated to have se x and then i was exhausted, i have a bad mood in general and im not motivated anymore to do anything (100% no depression, I've checked that - i want but i just don't have the energy coz im constantly exhausted from basically nothing). And I've worked 10 times harder in the gym and eat 10 times cleaner than all of my friends, yet im the one with the worst gains by far, which is quite frustrating. Also I seem to have gained quite some fat in my midsection area and no matter what I do (and i know how to train, how to do HIIT, how to sprint, how to count calories, how to...) its not coming off, no matter what I do.

I've purchased the Book of Morgenthaler (Testosterone for Life) if you know it. And I seem to have almost all of the symptoms. It seems like the best way to live my life fully and not "rot" away. From what I read he says that its fairly safe, if administered and monitored right.

I just feel like im 60+ and that sucks hard...