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    thank u bb

    I have had this gyno issue for 6 yrs now..gets completely resolved and appears again after 7/8 months..any change in hormones I trigger the gyno..once I went on keto diet after 4 weeks of bulk diet and bam the gyno appeared..this is without any use of gear or prohormone

    I have used nolva and ralox standalone and cleared my gyno..in both serms my estro dipped as low as 10 causing clicky joints/hairfall and lethargy and testo was not suppressed

    people use nolva clomid all the time..but am on ralox clearing a gyno and clomid unlike nolva increases estro activity..cannot add nolva as hairfall is really heavy..so am bit worried if clomid is the right choice

    have you used or heard ralox and clomid in conjunction during a gyno eliminating process..

    thanks on the info on daa..wasted my money I guess..but since have bought it will use it now..

    bb how low have u seen hdl levels..23 is scary..



    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    Yes, SARMS are supressive no surprise there, plenty of info here in forum confirming this.

    The low e2 is not from ralox, it is from having low test. Ralox is not an AI, it will not lower serum e2.

    If you want to continue the cycle you need add some testosterone. A few weeks of low HDL, although not ideal, is not too bad, of course make sure you get it back up after cycle. Liver values are still low, no problem there.

    If you decide to stop the cycle you need to PCT. Dont know why you say you cannot use clomid?!?!? IF you want to PCT thats what you need. Absolutely no problem in using clomid with another SERM like ralox or nolva, in fact it is the recommended PCT. Add clomid (75/50/50/50) to the ralox.

    HCGenerate is just herbs and vitamins, its useless as PCT. DAA is also useless (Three and six grams supplementation of d-aspartic acid in resistance trained men | Journal of the International Society of Sports Nutrition | Full Text). Why do ppl keep talking about HCGenerate for PCT???? FFS...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowly View Post
    thank u bb

    I have had this gyno issue for 6 yrs now..gets completely resolved and appears again after 7/8 months..any change in hormones I trigger the gyno..once I went on keto diet after 4 weeks of bulk diet and bam the gyno appeared..this is without any use of gear or prohormone

    I have used nolva and ralox standalone and cleared my gyno..in both serms my estro dipped as low as 10 causing clicky joints/hairfall and lethargy and testo was not suppressed

    people use nolva clomid all the time..but am on ralox clearing a gyno and clomid unlike nolva increases estro activity..cannot add nolva as hairfall is really heavy..so am bit worried if clomid is the right choice

    have you used or heard ralox and clomid in conjunction during a gyno eliminating process..

    thanks on the info on daa..wasted my money I guess..but since have bought it will use it now..

    bb how low have u seen hdl levels..23 is scary..
    You are worried about the wrong stuff. Worse thing for gyno is to have low testosterone, you need PCT or you may be facing TRT for life.
    Probably the only thing that will fix your gyno is surgery as you have big aureola.

    My HDL on tren goes around 40-45, ussual for me is 65-70, but I dont eat processed food... Just lots of fresh fish, raw vegetables and season fruit. Mediterranean diet as I live by seaside. Of course, never actually used this SARMS, except GW (which I tought it was useless)... Really prefer the real steroids, most of these SARMs are old rejected steroid formulas from the 70's. You would grow like weed on a proper test only cycle.

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    I have estro lower than 5..dont think gyno will be an issue till I am on ralox..

    thinking of adding clomid for pct..clomid has estrogenic qualities and will help a bit with low estro too while restarting the hpta..

    do you think clomid and ralox combo is a good idea

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.BB View Post
    You are worried about the wrong stuff. Worse thing for gyno is to have low testosterone, you need PCT or you may be facing TRT for life.
    Probably the only thing that will fix your gyno is surgery as you have big aureola.

    My HDL on tren goes around 40-45, ussual for me is 65-70, but I dont eat processed food... Just lots of fresh fish, raw vegetables and season fruit. Mediterranean diet as I live by seaside. Of course, never actually used this SARMS, except GW (which I tought it was useless)... Really prefer the real steroids, most of these SARMs are old rejected steroid formulas from the 70's. You would grow like weed on a proper test only cycle.

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