Thanks for the responses. I have never taken a 5AR inhibitor but seeing as changing from injections to creams provided no benefits wouldn't that suggest dht isn't the issue? I was going to get dht pulled last bloodwork but the lab I went to couldn't do it. I am not on hcg atm but I have been in the past and the only thing it did for me was lower my libido further and make me feel really depressed.. It did provide some support for fatigue though