First Cycle (Test Prop, Var)

[meatsncheese]

Whether I cycle now or when im 25 or when im 35 there is always the risk of TRT, I get that and i think to me the big reason for waiting is because a lot can change in a few years maturity wise. What im ok with now i may regret later or think was a stupid decision and i do try to keep that in mind before I decide to do things that could affect me in the long run. I know that my stats have room for improvement, being shutdown for as long as i was more than likely hindered some progress and my legs could use some work. But what stumps me is being told to wait just to risk trt anyway, being 25 doesn't clear me of that possibility. I think if i would have changed my mind i would have done it already after reading about this for a long time and even experiencing the shutdown effects that can happen, but to me i would rather do all that then remain where im at... an average joe.

[Livinlean]

Whether I cycle now or when im 25 or when im 35 there is always the risk of TRT, I get that and i think to me the big reason for waiting is because a lot can change in a few years maturity wise. What im ok with now i may regret later or think was a stupid decision and i do try to keep that in mind before I decide to do things that could affect me in the long run. I know that my stats have room for improvement, being shutdown for as long as i was more than likely hindered some progress and my legs could use some work. But what stumps me is being told to wait just to risk trt anyway, being 25 doesn't clear me of that possibility. I think if i would have changed my mind i would have done it already after reading about this for a long time and even experiencing the shutdown effects that can happen, but to me i would rather do all that then remain where im at... an average joe.

This response really just seems like you are trying to justify it to yourself... nothing wrong with that. At 25 or 35 you run less risk of TRT as your hormonal systems have matured. But disregarding that, bigger concern is the fact that you had trouble recovering and want to cycle again without giving your body more time off. End of the day its your decision man I probably wouldn't have listened to someone on the internet at your age either but we're just trying to look out for you.

[meatsncheese]

I totally get it and appreciate the input from the experienced users here, im just wondering if a lot of the input being said is just scare tactics to lead me away from what i have already experienced with being shutdown and all that. My recovery trouble came from a lack of doing pct right after, ocular toxicity from serms scared me off for awhile and also I wouldn't be running anything for another couple months because im going on a trip with some friends at the end of this month. I hate to be another thread like so many others ive read of young guys looking for gear advice and instead being told its a bad idea ha :P. I just feel ready with my past cycle experience, knowledge and training time but if im missing something and waiting really is better I will try to put it on hold. Try is the key word there because your right, I have it pretty set in stone already and on bad days in the gym or life in general it makes it that much more tempting.

[numbere]

I totally get it and appreciate the input from the experienced users here, im just wondering if a lot of the input being said is just scare tactics to lead me away from what i have already experienced with being shutdown and all that. My recovery trouble came from a lack of doing pct right after, ocular toxicity from serms scared me off for awhile and also I wouldn't be running anything for another couple months because im going on a trip with some friends at the end of this month. I hate to be another thread like so many others ive read of young guys looking for gear advice and instead being told its a bad idea ha :P. I just feel ready with my past cycle experience, knowledge and training time but if im missing something and waiting really is better I will try to put it on hold. Try is the key word there because your right, I have it pretty set in stone already and on bad days in the gym or life in general it makes it that much more tempting.

I'm going to be brutally honest.

If you're looking for sympathy you probably won't find it here.

If you're looking for justification to cycle you probably won't find that here either.

You asked for advice and you got some solid feedback, what you choose to do with that info is completely on you now.

[meatsncheese]

Not looking for any of that, really. Was looking for input on my cycle. Appreciate everyone taking the time to reply and ill just leave it at that and take what was said in mind, thanks.