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    Quote Originally Posted by scojon View Post
    I am 53 years old 6'3" 195 lbs and about 15% bf. I am planning on a first cycle of cypionate at 400mg a week. I am currently taking a trt dosage of 300mg every 15 days. Being I am on trt di I need pct?
    Also how long should I wait to go back to my doc so that my levels won't be sky high?
    First, welcome to the forum. Second, you need to find a new doc as yours does not know hormones at all. The half life of test is 5-7 days. He is dosing you on it's terminal life which is idiotic. None of the best doc's in the country would recommend this. It puts you on a hormonal roller coaster ride. Take a look at the graph below to give you a quick idea:





    At a minimum you should be on weekly injections. Every 5 days is popular as is twice per week but we are obviously talking about more reasonable doses due to the frequency. I'd strongly suggest (if you can self inject) that you drop back to about 100 mgs every 5 days and retest some basic BW in about 4 weeks or so. What your doc has you on is simply not a healthy protocol.

    I'm curious, are you on any form of estrogen control right now?
    How is your hematocrit level?
    Can you post up any current BW?

    Regarding your question about pct it is not needed like 73 said above. Visit the AAS Q & A Forum and read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of the forum. It will explain all you need to know for a first cycle, including for those on TRT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    First, welcome to the forum. Second, you need to find a new doc as yours does not know hormones at all. The half life of test is 5-7 days. He is dosing you on it's terminal life which is idiotic. None of the best doc's in the country would recommend this. It puts you on a hormonal roller coaster ride. Take a look at the graph below to give you a quick idea:





    At a minimum you should be on weekly injections. Every 5 days is popular as is twice per week but we are obviously talking about more reasonable doses due to the frequency. I'd strongly suggest (if you can self inject) that you drop back to about 100 mgs every 5 days and retest some basic BW in about 4 weeks or so. What your doc has you on is simply not a healthy protocol.

    I'm curious, are you on any form of estrogen control right now?
    How is your hematocrit level?
    Can you post up any current BW?

    Regarding your question about pct it is not needed like 73 said above. Visit the AAS Q & A Forum and read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of the forum. It will explain all you need to know for a first cycle, including for those on TRT.
    Hey kelkel. What does the number on the left of the graph represent? And the bottom is number of days it she be taken? Can u please explain

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    First, welcome to the forum. Second, you need to find a new doc as yours does not know hormones at all. The half life of test is 5-7 days. He is dosing you on it's terminal life which is idiotic. None of the best doc's in the country would recommend this. It puts you on a hormonal roller coaster ride. Take a look at the graph below to give you a quick idea:





    At a minimum you should be on weekly injections. Every 5 days is popular as is twice per week but we are obviously talking about more reasonable doses due to the frequency. I'd strongly suggest (if you can self inject) that you drop back to about 100 mgs every 5 days and retest some basic BW in about 4 weeks or so. What your doc has you on is simply not a healthy protocol.

    I'm curious, are you on any form of estrogen control right now?
    How is your hematocrit level?
    Can you post up any current BW?

    Regarding your question about pct it is not needed like 73 said above. Visit the AAS Q & A Forum and read the Successful First Cycle sticky thread at the top of the forum. It will explain all you need to know for a first cycle, including for those on TRT.

    I'll have to second what Kel stated regarding injection frequency. Just to make it a short story, I have a not too great cardiac history and a genetic blood disorder. After finally finding a Dr. that would even agree to treat my low T, I was started on 200mg once every 4 weeks. The first 7-10 days were great, after that the rest of the month was crap. After 6 months and 2 sets of labs showing that my T just before my monthly injection was even lower than my T before treatment, my Dr. moved me up to 200mg every 14 days. Fast forward through more labs and again my T was dropping. I asked her to split my dosage and increase the frequency and am now @ 100mg/week. Even though we don't want to treat off of total T and just to give you an idea of how much difference it made, total T on 200 mg every 2 weeks was 428 ng/dL if I recall correctly. On 100mg/week, total T was 661ng/dL. I will probably be going on self injections soon, and I plan to try 50 mg E3.5 days and see where that puts me.
    I would really advise trying to go to a more frequent @ lesser dosage protocol than the one you are on now. You'll have less T to E conversion, hematocrit and hemoglobin values will likely improve if they tend to run high, and you will feel much better.
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