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    EOD with your adex at .25 would have been much better.
    If you're running 500 mg test per week and your Total T level is 1489 then your gear is severely under-dosed.
    Some guys simply can have more sides than others. Hormones will do that.
    Fat gain would be your diet, not the testosterone.
    Bloating can be caused by high estrogen.

    By chance is this your first cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    EOD with your adex at .25 would have been much better.
    If you're running 500 mg test per week and your Total T level is 1489 then your gear is severely under-dosed.
    Some guys simply can have more sides than others. Hormones will do that.
    Fat gain would be your diet, not the testosterone.
    Bloating can be caused by high estrogen.

    By chance is this your first cycle?
    What levels will a regiment of 500mg sustanon /each week give someone on average? Is 1400 roughly low compared to what a test only cycle will yield. The more the better in terms of benifets and I would assume that side effects will be more a threat as well..
    And another qestion I have is..if one is taking .25 mg eod of Arimidex, would it. It be as effective or bad if one takes for example 1mg- 1.25mg..can they just dose once per week? I ask because I have some high concentrate 5mg/ml of liquid Arimidex to be exact. It's hard to measure out what's roughly .25 mg since it equals like a drop or two literally..and I figured since it falls out of suspension at that concentrate especially since I can see the white swirls inside the liquid, but since that happens and after I shake it up i feel that a few drop dont have a lot of medicine in it visually. I say that just because I don't see a lot of the white debris in say 2/16ths of a ml.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    What levels will a regiment of 500mg sustanon /each week give someone on average? Is 1400 roughly low compared to what a test only cycle will yield. The more the better in terms of benifets and I would assume that side effects will be more a threat as well..
    And another qestion I have is..if one is taking .25 mg eod of Arimidex, would it. It be as effective or bad if one takes for example 1mg- 1.25mg..can they just dose once per week? I ask because I have some high concentrate 5mg/ml of liquid Arimidex to be exact. It's hard to measure out what's roughly .25 mg since it equals like a drop or two literally..and I figured since it falls out of suspension at that concentrate especially since I can see the white swirls inside the liquid, but since that happens and after I shake it up i feel that a few drop dont have a lot of medicine in it visually. I say that just because I don't see a lot of the white debris in say 2/16ths of a ml.

    Anecdotal average for a 500 mg cycle would be 3-4k ng/dl
    Take your adex eod at .25 not once per week. It has a half life of just less than 50 hrs. Your total t is not that high remember.
    Of course some of your test is converting to estrogen. That's what it does and it's why AI's are important. That said, it's not the cause of your lower total T level. The gear is under-dosed gear. Example, my normal TRT protocol is 60-70 mgs x 2 per week. This keeps me in the 14-1500's ng/dl.

    Take some time and read the "Successful First Cycle" thread at the top of this forum. It will help you greatly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Anecdotal average for a 500 mg cycle would be 3-4k ng/dl
    Take your adex eod at .25 not once per week. It has a half life of just less than 50 hrs. Your total t is not that high remember.
    Of course some of your test is converting to estrogen. That's what it does and it's why AI's are important. That said, it's not the cause of your lower total T level. The gear is under-dosed gear. Example, my normal TRT protocol is 60-70 mgs x 2 per week. This keeps me in the 14-1500's ng/dl.

    Take some time and read the "Successful First Cycle" thread at the top of this forum. It will help you greatly.

    so seeing as my test is not that high, do i need to do a pct? i have nolvadex on hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bpowell512 View Post
    so seeing as my test is not that high, do i need to do a pct? i have nolvadex on hand
    Yes, you're endogenous production is still shutdown regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    EOD with your adex at .25 would have been much better.
    If you're running 500 mg test per week and your Total T level is 1489 then your gear is severely under-dosed.
    Some guys simply can have more sides than others. Hormones will do that.
    Fat gain would be your diet, not the testosterone.
    Bloating can be caused by high estrogen.



    By chance is this your first cycle?
    yes this is my first cycle. since my estrogen is so high is it possible that the test is aromatizing into estrogen? My body is estrogen prone, my dad had gyno in college and i had it when i was a teenager, could my genes play a role, or is the gear shit? Also have bad acne so i can tell that my sides are related to high estro! you think i should do .25 adex eod not .5??

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