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    Imo you should use nandrolone before tren.

    Cycling isn't the same after you use tren.

    There's times I wish that I never touched the stuff.

    Nandrolone and mast give you an awesome look if your bf is low enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    Imo you should use nandrolone before tren.

    Cycling isn't the same after you use tren.

    There's times I wish that I never touched the stuff.

    Nandrolone and mast give you an awesome look if your bf is low enough.
    would nandrolone cause me to hold any water? will it be okay to run though till show day?

    anyway i decided to just go with 12 week cycle. keep it simple.

    week 1-12 test p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 mast p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 NPP 100mg eod
    week 7-12 anavar 50mg ed

    is that too much? should i drop something?
    maybe just run test mast and avar?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy91 View Post
    would nandrolone cause me to hold any water? will it be okay to run though till show day?

    anyway i decided to just go with 12 week cycle. keep it simple.

    week 1-12 test p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 mast p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 NPP 100mg eod
    week 7-12 anavar 50mg ed

    is that too much? should i drop something?
    maybe just run test mast and avar?
    Only about 20% of nandrolone converts to estrogen and mast is a muscle conditioner that gives a harder appearance.

    So if you're holding water on that cycle then your diet needs attention.

    I've personally run NPP/mast p and it gives me a similar look to tren but I'm able to make more gains.

    You're going to to be using short esters for 3 months.

    I would think this would give you enough time to tweak your doses and use them up to the show.

    Maybe you should consider dropping your test during the last week for a dryer appearance.

    I think those doses are a good starting point if you manipulate them a bit to find your sweet spot.

    I recently ran a similar cycle and like my doses at test p 100mg eod, mast p 200mg eod, and NPP 150mg eod.

    If you were going to drop anything I'd say delete the var, but you can have it on hand and see if you want to use it after the first 6 weeks.

    You have experience with var so I guess you know how it effects your body but I wouldn't use it for less than 8 weeks in order to get the full effect.

    If you haven't already maybe you should post in the competition forum.

    MJ posts their often and I'm sure he has more experience with show cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Randy91 View Post
    would nandrolone cause me to hold any water? will it be okay to run though till show day? NPP doesn't hold as much water as Deca. I like NPP, it's smooth and give great results. All steroids will hold water as it require water to break down the ester and release the compound into the body. I end the cycle a couple of weeks before the show and use food to control the water.

    anyway i decided to just go with 12 week cycle. keep it simple. 12 weeks is a little long to run a short ester cycle. I would stick with an 8 week cycle.

    week 1-12 test p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 mast p 100mg eod
    week 1-12 NPP 100mg eod
    week 7-12 anavar 50mg ed

    is that too much? should i drop something?
    maybe just run test mast and avar?
    If you're looking to put on some size, run the Test/NPP. If you're already lean and looking to get leaner, run the Test/Mast. You can run the Var with either cycle for 4 to 6 weeks. If you're eating a clean diet, you'll get lean and hard.

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