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[Cuz]

Your less than 20%, more like 16- 18. You can make gains naturally if you are disciplined enough to do that. Good luck with 8% bodyfat, thats an achievement in its self.

[Back In Black]

Your less than 20%, more like 16- 18. You can make gains naturally if you are disciplined enough to do that. Good luck with 8% bodyfat, thats an achievement in its self.

Hate to disagree with you but but for me that's 20% all the way with minimal muscle.

OP, if you are lifting for 1.5 hours a time it's too much.

Take the advice and have your diet and workout critiqued in the relevant sections.

[Cuz]

Hate to disagree with you but but for me that's 20% all the way with minimal muscle.

OP, if you are lifting for 1.5 hours a time it's too much.

Take the advice and have your diet and workout critiqued in the relevant sections.

Ah first pic i thought i saw visible abs outline in a relaxed state. I just checked his back pic and i can see what you mean, hes carrying more fat than i thought.
One thing i know we can agree on OP is aas isnt gonna magically change you into a bodybuilder over night. We know you can make gains if you get serious about your macros and training routines