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    Lifting with a beginner!

    What's happening everyone,

    So my soon to be brother in law wants to go train with me today. He has always played sports but just started actually training. (Body building)

    Question, is do think I should push him until he fails. Show him how to really lift and thenot eat. Or should I take it easy with him for know?

    I will be working out his diet today after training. He seems to be pretty In to lifting so far and I feel privileged that he came to me for advice and all.

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    Keep him at a mild to medium pace for a while just your standard 3x10or 12 range to prevent injury. Give his body time to get use to it. Stress the importance of proper form and try to think about the muscle he is meant to be working. Stick to basic compound movements to build up his strength dont worry about isolation movements.

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    You should take your time with a beginner and stress the importance of proper form over the amount of weight lifted. Start slow with basic mass builders and teach him about the fundamentals of building muscle. You shouldn't rush this process.

    Below is an excerpt from Championsh Bodybuilding by Chris Acteo.

    "The goal of any bodybuilder is to gain as much muscle as possible. However, you must understand that building muscle is a (slow) process. If a beginner started training with a Pro bodybuilder, he would not make super gains. The body is like a new baseball glove. It must be broken in slowly, and that takes time. Trying to accelerate the whole muscle building process will not work. A beginner must start basic and slow and go from there.

    The beginning should grasp two important ideas. Proper form is a must. Correct form allows you to place a majority of the stress from the weights on the particular muscle that you are trying to build. A beginner should takes as long as requires to perfect the form on each exercise. Many times a beginner doesn't quite grasp the correct form of an exercise. When he progresses and adds more weight the form suddenly falls apart and stress is taken off the targeted muscle group. When stress is diverted from the muscle group, injuries begin to crop up and the targeted muscle fails to grow. Many times in the gym I see guys using really heavy weights but they do not get great results even though even though they are taking sets to failure in the correct rep range. They do not add muscle even with heavy weights because, due to poor form, the stress is not completely placed on the targeted muscle. Instead, bad form places much of the stress on the joints and other assisting muscle groups."

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    You should take your time with a beginner and stress the importance of proper form over the amount of weight lifted. Start slow with basic mass builders and teach him about the fundamentals of building muscle. You shouldn't rush this process.

    Below is an excerpt from Championsh Bodybuilding by Chris Acteo.

    "The goal of any bodybuilder is to gain as much muscle as possible. However, you must understand that building muscle is a (slow) process. If a beginner started training with a Pro bodybuilder, he would not make super gains. The body is like a new baseball glove. It must be broken in slowly, and that takes time. Trying to accelerate the whole muscle building process will not work. A beginner must start basic and slow and go from there.

    The beginning should grasp two important ideas. Proper form is a must. Correct form allows you to place a majority of the stress from the weights on the particular muscle that you are trying to build. A beginner should takes as long as requires to perfect the form on each exercise. Many times a beginner doesn't quite grasp the correct form of an exercise. When he progresses and adds more weight the form suddenly falls apart and stress is taken off the targeted muscle group. When stress is diverted from the muscle group, injuries begin to crop up and the targeted muscle fails to grow. Many times in the gym I see guys using really heavy weights but they do not get great results even though even though they are taking sets to failure in the correct rep range. They do not add muscle even with heavy weights because, due to poor form, the stress is not completely placed on the targeted muscle. Instead, bad form places much of the stress on the joints and other assisting muscle groups."
    Thanks! Like always good advice and even better facts! Haha

    I want to start him off on the right foot instead of wasting years of training wrong like a lot of us(me included) have done.

    My goal for this week will be to get his diet in check for the most part(basically teach him the good and bads)

    And to try and show him correct form to lifts and get him to focus on deadlifts, squats ex. (Full body lifts)

    After he does this (if he keeps sticking to it) for a month or 2. I was thinking something like a 5x5 training?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73rr View Post
    After he does this (if he keeps sticking to it) for a month or 2. I was thinking something like a 5x5 training?
    I'm not sure of his goals but 5x5 is more of a strength/power lifting range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    I'm not sure of his goals but 5x5 is more of a strength/power lifting range.
    His goal is all around shape and to lift more then his buddies. So normal teenager.

    I actually to this day go back to 5x5 training every know and then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73rr View Post
    His goal is all around shape and to lift more then his buddies. So normal teenager.

    I actually to this day go back to 5x5 training every know and then.
    To each his own I suppose.

    I prefer the 6-12 rep range as it's proven best for building muscle and with additional muscle comes additional strength.

    Striving to continually push harder so that more weight is added will foster both muscle mass and strength.

    Many of the best bodybuilders are also the strongest people on earth.

    Yates, Levrone, Francois, Bev Francis

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    Quote Originally Posted by 73rr View Post
    His goal is all around shape and to lift more then his buddies. So normal teenager.

    I actually to this day go back to 5x5 training every know and then.
    As said above... Any routine he will see changes being he's just starting out, therefore, strengthening his ligaments, and tendons are very important for the onslaught that will be coming once form and ex's are preformed safely and correctly(targeting and isolating the muscle being worked)

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    To each his own I suppose.

    I prefer the 6-12 rep range as it's proven best for building muscle and with additional muscle comes additional strength.

    Striving to continually push harder so that more weight is added will foster both muscle mass and strength.

    Many of the best bodybuilders are also the strongest people on earth.

    Yates, Levrone, Francois, Bev Francis
    Big ronnie and lets never forget the great franco columbu. He was a boxer a powerlifter and a body builder. So he could out lift most people kick there arse in a brawl and look sik with a shirt off. All the while being a short arse at 164cm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Big ronnie and lets never forget the great franco columbu. He was a boxer a powerlifter and a body builder. So he could out lift most people kick there arse in a brawl and look sik with a shirt off. All the while being a short arse at 164cm
    And he Would've won the WSM event at 185lbs(until he broke both legs in the refrigerator carry - yoke) - by far the smallest of the bunch(bill kazmier etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by NACH3 View Post
    And he Would've won the WSM event at 185lbs(until he broke both legs in the refrigerator carry - yoke) - by far the smallest of the bunch(bill kazmier etc)
    The man was a animal. You could argue he was the greatest athlete of all time. Definitely the most underrated. I much prefer him over arnie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Euroholic View Post
    Big ronnie and lets never forget the great franco columbu. He was a boxer a powerlifter and a body builder. So he could out lift most people kick there arse in a brawl and look sik with a shirt off. All the while being a short arse at 164cm
    Both those freaks are worth mentioning.

    The YouTube videos of Ronnie Inclining 200lb DBs for sets 5 weeks out from Olympia is nothing short of impressive.

    Franco was a very accomplished PLifter who set records.

    It's a shame he couldn't compete in strongman comps anymore.

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    The one issue that people have is that they get too bored with the training or two becomes like slavery with the dieting And training. Unsure how to get one to crave it like us I think either your built for it or your not. I love breaking myself down from a grueling training session and then the steps to rebuild.
    One way *** heard that keeps people feeling a little more free is by having that cheat meal one time for once a week. To have anything you want one time. That way your metabolism is reved up and the following day when your back to your normal diet your metabolism will be reved up and therefore burning more. Keeps it a little more loose. I guess all I'm saying is don't scare him away. Because I know hardly anyone that will train like I do for recreation lol. But my goals are long term and not just looks rather overall efficiency. SFAS baby. Get you some!!

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