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    Quote Originally Posted by TestoSuper View Post
    my prolactin is ok until now, I finished the fourth week caber 2 x 0.25 mg/week and I checked total testosterone only last week, it was slightly more than 3 ng / dl ... a bit better than previous (2.68 ng/dl)...
    So, I decided to do another 2 weeks at caber 2 x 0.5 mg / week and after I will recheck total testosterone, if it got up even a little bit, for me it's ok and i will start my Bulk cycle next months...
    Ah... I am thinking that this time maybe I will save Deca for the next year.. (although I bought it)
    So prolaction went down a bit ?

    Further, did you have sides from caber during this using period ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    So prolaction went down a bit ?

    Further, did you have sides from caber during this using period ?
    I'm three weeks into caber at 0.25mg x2 weekly.


    Haven't re-checked PRL, but I can tell about sides. At first, I did experience some light headaches, tren did the same but worse, this is rather unusual side and I believe it's from dysregulated SE receptors. Second, lethargy and drowsiness. It should have lasted a few days only but the brain must be having an hard time adapting to the drug. Last, effect on sexual function is quite weird - it's like you build up the tension but it never gets released, hence gratification from climax is blunted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    I'm three weeks into caber at 0.25mg x2 weekly.


    Haven't re-checked PRL, but I can tell about sides. At first, I did experience some light headaches, tren did the same but worse, this is rather unusual side and I believe it's from dysregulated SE receptors. Second, lethargy and drowsiness. It should have lasted a few days only but the brain must be having an hard time adapting to the drug. Last, effect on sexual function is quite weird - it's like you build up the tension but it never gets released, hence gratification from climax is blunted.
    It seems to be the presence of 2 forces against each other..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    It seems to be the presence of 2 forces against each other..
    Indeed: Dopamine (inhibitory) vs Noradrenaline (excitatory). Theoretically you need an optimal balance between the two. For example, DA receptors stimulation without enough NA activity will lead to lethargy and drowsiness.
    Last edited by hammerheart; 10-16-2016 at 10:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Indeed: Dopamine (inhibitory) vs Noradrenaline (excitatory). Theoretically you need an optimal balance between the two. For example, DA receptors stimulation without enough NA activity will lead to lethargy and drowsiness.
    That's normal. With a DA agonist, you're increasing inhibition... so that's should explain your eiaculation issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    So prolaction went down a bit ?

    Further, did you have sides from caber during this using period ?
    Yes I think that prolactin has dropped a little (but I have not measured it yet) .. anyway I felt the effects from the earliest days (increased libido and easier erections) ..
    I had no particular sides, except for a few mild headache associated with nausea once, but I don't know if it was caused by caber directly... maybe not .. otherwise everything ok!

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    Anyway, i hope my Gyno onset will be reversed... i got it in an early stage i think, as the sign was a redness around the right nipple and a little lump sensation near it, in the red area. I attacked it soon i hope.... as you can see in pictures, the right side ( left in picture ) is more pronounced than left one. Consider that a fair amount is fat, because the lump i feel is very very small and without pain ( i think is an early state ).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slacker78 View Post
    Anyway, i hope my Gyno onset will be reversed... i got it in an early stage i think, as the sign was a redness around the right nipple and a little lump sensation near it, in the red area. I attacked it soon i hope.... as you can see in pictures, the right side ( left in picture ) is more pronounced than left one. Consider that a fair amount is fat, because the lump i feel is very very small and without pain ( i think is an early state ).

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    Well no wonder you got an high rate of aromatization at your %bf. Are you planning some cutting later on?
    Last edited by hammerheart; 10-16-2016 at 10:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Well no wonder you got an high rate of aromatization at your %bf. Are you planning some cutting later on?
    Yes. Last 4 weeks ( i planned a 13 weeks cycle ), i will remove deca and test E, and i will use just Test prop 200mg/week changing totally the diet and increasing cardio, till the 13th week.

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