Quote Originally Posted by lVletalhead View Post
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer. I am just taking enthanate right now my doc won't prescribe it to me until I come off the test and show 3 more tests with low levels. They did explain that once it was done they would do 1 shot every 10 weeks of enthanate at 750ml which from everything I have read isn't going to be good.

I have my appointment right now and am going to ask to be referred. It sounds like currently I am not able to produce much testosterone on my own and it's either due to my pituitary gland or hypogonadism. The hypogonadism symptoms all seem to fit and explain the last decade of my life.

Currently I'm doing the cycle to try get me weight under control because it got way out of hand and I think the side effects of going back to obese are worse then taking some test and winni.

I'm just worried that if I come off it for the testing that I will end up back in the same boat I was in having 0 energy feeling foggy in my brain and sore and achy amd tired all the time. My quality of life for the last while was not the best and so far all my doc has done is push pills that don't work on me. It's a shitty spot to be in.

From what I understand it's the estrogen I have to worry about while taking this cycle and I have been taking arimidex to help make sure those levels don't spike cause the way I understand it is that stuff kills off the estrogen floating around in my body. I'm just trying to be as safe about taking the winni and test shots as I can.

Results wise I am almost down 50 pounds and over 3 inches on my waist plus I am putting on muscle which is exciting for me cause I spent 2 years in the gym with proper diet and lost some weight but put on 0 muscle. Workouts were tough too cause I didn't have any energy for them it was all mental and me just pushing through. Now with the cycle I have energy and feel great in the gym I'm loving working out.
Mr. BB is way more knowledgeable than me when it comes to specifics, I can only talk in generalities as someone who has been on TRT injectables for about 2 years and almost a year of topicals before that.

Are you sure you maybe didn't misunderstand the doctor's plan, and he actually wants to put you on AVEED like Mr.BB linked to? AVEED® (testosterone undecanoate) injection CIII

It looks like the claim is after your initial first month of treatment, you only need to do it 5 times a year, and it is administered in 750mg doses...just like you said your doc wanted to do. I would double check with him/his office to see if that's what he means. If so, search the forums to see how AVEED is working for other people here.

I know you're doing a bunch of stuff now and happy with the results (and avoiding obesity might be one of the healthiest things you can do) but do you have any idea what this is doing to your blood levels? LH, FSH, Kidney, blood pressure, high or low estrogen...these are all things that should be monitored. And more. I'm hoping your doctor is doing this and you didn't mention it, otherwise you'll have to take things into your own hands and get these tests done. Even so, it sounds like you may still need professional help.

The AI will keep estrogen low, but how much do you need? I'm more sensitive to it so my dose is half or less of what is normally prescribed. You don't want it to go too low, but you don't want it to go too high either. It's a tricky puzzle to figure out. And then when you're in a normal "range", you might actually feel better at the higher or lower end of that.

Honestly, it sounds like you are looking for legit TRT therapy and getting the tests are part of the process. My life was SHITTY before I got on TRT, and it took a long time for it to turn around. It is STILL turning around, so it's not an overnight thing but what other choice do we have?

So I would double check with your doc to make sure he is giving you AVEED, and if he's not or you're not satisfied with the way that treatment sounds to you, find another doctor. You can find them online they don't even have to be in the state you live in. There is a sticky here on finding a doc. You can also look at reviews online and call and talk to the offices to see what you're in for before committing. They will also need tests too, though. They need to make sure you are a good candidate for this.

It's your health, and only you can decide what to do about it. Don't settle for a doctor or treatment you aren't into, and ask plenty of questions when you do find a doctor. They should be working with you, not against you, and you need to do what's best for you. Hopefully your doc is talking AVEED and you can go from there.