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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I also disagree, lowering the corporate tax from 35% to 15% will bring trillions of capital and lost tax revenue back. Companies will no longer have to hide money off shore and show "loses," on the books to avoid an outrageously high corporate tax, which is by far the highest in the world.

    That money and new opportunity will make American corporations much more competitive with the rest of the world.
    That's great for large corporations.

    We'll have to wait and see if they pass those savings down to middle class workers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    That's great for large corporations.

    We'll have to wait and see if they pass those savings down to middle class workers.
    It's also great for small corporations. My business is an S-corp, if my tax rate was lowered even 10% I could hire another employee that I can't afford now and give myself a raise with what's left over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    It's also great for small corporations. My business is an S-corp, if my tax rate was lowered even 10% I could hire another employee that I can't afford now and give myself a raise with what's left over.
    That's great and I hope you do pay lower taxes on your business, but the average American is not a business owner.

    Look, I voted for Trump purely with my second amendment rights in mind.

    I just think it's a stretch to say that he or HRC care for the middle class or will do anything to help their financial situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    That's great and I hope you do pay lower taxes on your business, but the average American is not a business owner.

    Look, I voted for Trump purely with my second amendment rights in mind.

    I just think it's a stretch to say that he or HRC care for the middle class or will do anything to help their financial situation.
    What is good for business is good for the average American employee. Let me assure you if it hurts me my employees will get less. I'm not going to strive three times as hard as my employees and watch them do better than me. That is a socialistic mindset. I built my business. No one "did it for me" as Obama would say. It's my ass at the end of the day, My investment, and my employees will suffer with me. It's the frame of mind that the employee is the most important, that has totally fucked us up. The employee is replaceable quickly. The business that employs them is not nearly as readily replaceable. Business doing good is employees doing good and there is no other way. IMHO (I have no idea what that means but I'm pretty sure it means I can say anything and no one can be offended) Fuck a bunch of politics. Time to lift and eat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere
    That's great and I hope you do pay lower taxes on your business, but the average American is not a business owner. Look, I voted for Trump purely with my second amendment rights in mind. I just think it's a stretch to say that he or HRC care for the middle class or will do anything to help their financial situation.
    Same here in regards to the second amendment and Supreme Court justices

    I also voted for Trump because of all the corruption behind Clinton plus her husband was impeached as our President. Would have been us slapping ourselves in the face if he was back in the White House

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    It's also great for small corporations. My business is an S-corp, if my tax rate was lowered even 10% I could hire another employee that I can't afford now and give myself a raise with what's left over.
    Dang man we should talk I am turning my llc to Scorp next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    That's great for large corporations.

    We'll have to wait and see if they pass those savings down to middle class workers.
    Now let me ask you a dumb question. Why would he lower taxes? He is a billionaire why should he care about middle class? Not trying to piss off anyone just asking question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post
    Now let me ask you a dumb question. Why would he lower taxes? He is a billionaire why should he care about middle class? Not trying to piss off anyone just asking question.
    He'll lower taxes for the wealthy and large businesses because Republicans mostly believe in trickle down economics.

    Many great economists believe everyone would benefit if the corporate income tax were zero percent.

    Not to be facetious but he should care about the middle class because he's president elect of the United States.

    If you were in the middle class, but changed income levels, you're either wealthy or live in poverty.

    Unfortunately, it's likely the latter in today's society.

    It should be noted that in the last quarter job growth and economic growth are both up so he has positive momentum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by numbere View Post
    He'll lower taxes for the wealthy and large businesses because Republicans mostly believe in trickle down economics.

    Many great economists believe everyone would benefit if the corporate income tax were zero percent.

    Not to be facetious but he should care about the middle class because he's president elect of the United States.

    If you were in the middle class, but changed income levels, you're either wealthy or live in poverty.

    Unfortunately, it's likely the latter in today's society.

    It should be noted that in the last quarter job growth and economic growth are both up so he has positive momentum.
    Right
    When America was being built. Aside form the start when the heads of the industry where starting and building the foundation. There was a point when the workers I.e the middle class demanded higher pay etc. I.e unions.

    When the big wigs started taking care of the middle class .aside from the start of the capitalism when they strengthened the middle class is when the big wigs gained most propet


    Middle class is very important. It's what the country is lol

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    Ok so let me sum it up. Please tell me if I am wrong. So you guys don't like immigrants who are burden on the system, trump promised to get rid of them. He wants to get USA out of agreements like NAFTA so the country is profitable like a business would. He would also lower taxes. So it's wait and see game. Did I get it right so far?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post
    Ok so let me sum it up. Please tell me if I am wrong. So you guys don't like immigrants who are burden on the system, trump promised to get rid of them. He wants to get USA out of agreements like NAFTA so the country is profitable like a business would. He would also lower taxes. So it's wait and see game. Did I get it right so far?
    Like I said. I have no idea what the presidents ever do or don't do. My teacher mentioned this possibly. I'm sure the president when elected and in office. They probably get briefed on all the top secrete stuff the president can only receive and when they get this Intel..I'm sure a lot of what they said when running their election campaign goes out the window. Cuz that intell changes things up. Ya know.

    Yeah we will wait and see. Nobody knows

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marsoc View Post
    Like I said. I have no idea what the presidents ever do or don't do. My teacher mentioned this possibly. I'm sure the president when elected and in office. They probably get briefed on all the top secrete stuff the president can only receive and when they get this Intel..I'm sure a lot of what they said when running their election campaign goes out the window. Cuz that intell changes things up. Ya know.

    Yeah we will wait and see. Nobody knows
    My thoughts exactly what was said during elections and what's done can be different but I m assuming that these are the reason ppl like him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by calgarian View Post
    Ok so let me sum it up. Please tell me if I am wrong. So you guys don't like immigrants who are burden on the system, trump promised to get rid of them. He wants to get USA out of agreements like NAFTA so the country is profitable like a business would. He would also lower taxes. So it's wait and see game. Did I get it right so far?
    Eh I could care less about immigrants as long as they're in school or employed.

    My biggest concern in this election was keeping all our second amendment rights.

    You should understand that short of executive order everything Trump wants to do has to first pass through the House and Senate before it takes affect.

    Since the Republicans control all three houses they can pass anything thay want as long as they work together.

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