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    If you're going to cycle and shut your HTPA down then you might as well use test so you can put on as much muscle tissue as possible.

    Imo you should drop all that over the counter stuff.

    Plus if you use test and have issues we can advise what steps to take.

    No one really knows pro hormones.

    A better cycle would be to get your body fat as low as possible first then use test p for 6 weeks along with arimidex and hcg.

    Followed by PCT consisting of both nolva and clomid.

    You should really concentrate on diet and training for now, leaving all AAS until you're in your mid to late 20s.

    Shutting down your HTPA with AAS at your age drastically increases the risk of hypogonadism and it would really suck to be on TRT, pinning test twice a week, for the next 50+ years of your life.

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    If you're going to cycle and shut your HTPA down then you might as well use test so you can put on as much muscle tissue as possible.

    Imo you should drop all that over the counter stuff.

    Plus if you use test and have issues we can advise what steps to take.

    No one really knows pro hormones.

    A better cycle would be to get your body fat as low as possible first then use test p for 6 weeks along with arimidex and hcg.

    Followed by PCT consisting of both nolva and clomid.

    You should really concentrate on diet and training for now, leaving all AAS until you're in your mid to late 20s.

    Shutting down your HTPA with AAS at your age drastically increases the risk of hypogonadism and it would really suck to be on TRT, pinning test twice a week, for the next 50+ years of your life.
    In all honesty, I have had just as good of gains with some of these OTC products as I did with my cycle of Test C. I really enjoy the orals and the instant alpha feeling they give. While I understand they come with more risk, I just really enjoy them and have a stock pile from the ban a few years ago that I'm going through right now.

    I also hate the legality issue of test and so I try not to use it that often beings I have this stockpile of orals that were purchased legally before the ban. I understand they are not legal, but I feel better knowing I purchased them from a retailer vs a UGL. Plus the lady isn't overly keen on the idea of anything illegal, and I have her convinced that the OTC orals are fine, so it avoids any sort of fighting which is definitely a bonus.

    The first Alpha one bridge I did with Epi and Trest netted me the same weight gain after PCT as my 14 week Test/EQ cycle did honestly. I just really enjoy these compounds, that is why I am choosing to run them.

    And I also understand the risks of using in your early 20's. I have already made the educated decision that I would like to use, have used, and that is not going to stop now. I also would not mind being on a doctor prescribed TRT. I know its a pain in the butt (literally), but if administered legally by a doctor, I have absolutely no issue with that. I just have so much ahead of me in life and I would like to make gains without the issue of dealing with hormone dealers or shipping things into my house that are not legal. It is solely a personal thing as I understand that most "real" AAS are a lot safer than the designer steroids that I am choosing to use.

    I am simply looking for input on this particular cycle layout. If anyone on here knows anything about these designers (they are designers, not prohormones), I would love some input.

    Thanks!

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