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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    Let me know if I got this right:

    All these numbers were when you were only on TRT dosages, not on cycle.
    The first 3 numbers were without fina, the second 3 were with fina.
    You don't have any numbers for a time were you were both on cycle and on fina simultaneously.

    All correct?

    Correct. Since implementing Fina I've not run elevated test. But will be doing so in the near future and will continue to run frequent BW to see how it goes.

    Here's a study you'll find interesting:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073894/
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Correct. Since implementing Fina I've not run elevated test. But will be doing so in the near future and will continue to run frequent BW to see how it goes.

    Here's a study you'll find interesting:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073894/
    Wow, that's an awesome study. Thx for linking that.
    I would love to see what the results are once you have elevated Test.

    Kel, perhaps you can explain something to me.
    People say that taking fina while using Nandrolone will actually have a worse effect, specifically in regards to hair loss.
    I've read some explanations but it still doesn't really make sense.
    What do you think about this?

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    This is a great thread; There's the ugly head of science in these posts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cupid View Post
    Wow, that's an awesome study. Thx for linking that.
    I would love to see what the results are once you have elNBevated Test.

    Kel, perhaps you can explain something to me.
    People say that taking fina while using Nandrolone will actually have a worse effect, specifically in regards to hair loss.
    I've read some explanations but it still doesn't really make sense.
    What do you think about this?
    What you read was bro science.

    Its fine to use nandrolone while on finasteride.

    About dosage it is correct that 5alpha reductase drugs, like finasteride and dutasteride, bind with reductase enzyme lowering DHT production. It doesnt destroy the DHT per se. The deduction that the more test you need more finasteride while incorrect, as you only have a certain amount ot reductase enzymes, it ends up working up to a point.

    There are studies for male baldness saying that 1 or 2 mg have more or less same effect on dht levels.
    Which is quite enough for the hair loss problem.

    DHT is the most important hormone for men, crashing it, like I read above with dutasteride for hair sake is completely stupid IMHO.

    For hair it is much better to lower dht to about 300-400 pg/ml, and to use topical cetoconozol shampoo. You can also stack minoxidil for added protection.

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