**Marcus's HIT Dungeon**

[Mr.BB]

Afternoon all. Just pulled some bw everything is good except hemocrit....51 points yikes. Only 3rd shot of trt and im still a lightweight...
Its out of range but how bad is this? Should i blood let asap or do i have some time. Not drinking enough water? Thoughts fellas?

Its high, but not extremely high.

Ideally you want hematocrit below 50%. If it goes above 50% during a blast and falls back, its not so bad, but if it stays above 52% during TRT only you need to donate and/or reduce dosage of test.

Be carefull with iron/ferritin levels, too much donations will lower your iron and your body will fight it by increasing the plasma factor VIII protein. Increased levels of factor VIII protein ppl are at high risk for blood clots!

[Mr.BB]

I have that and have to give blood every 4-6 weeks.

How are your iron and ferritin levels?

[Mr.BB]

Chest & Biceps

BB bench press - 2 warmups, 1 working with one drop
Incline DB press - 2 feelers, 1 working superset with flies
Incline flies - 1 working
Hammer ground base jammer side chest unilateral - 3 sets, focus on pec activation
Sitting flies machine - 2 feelers, 1 working double drop

BB ez curl - 2 warmups, 1 working
DB hammer curl - 1 feeler, 1 working one drop
Hammer scott curl - 2 feeler, 1 working one drop
Cable rope curl - 2 feeler, 1 working drops till failed partials.

Done.

[Capebuffalo]

How are your iron and ferritin levels?

They are both in the normal range. I've had it for about 3 yrs now. When they first took out the 10 vials( hospital and doc didn't work together so that was his order) the air bubble wouldn't rise to the top. It was every week at $268 a pop for two months then every two..... till I got to every 6-8 weeks. Pain in the ass but you can almost immediately feel the difference. And my face isn't red anymore.

[Cuz]

i think 50.3 is on the high end. Drink more water. Find out if you have polycythemia. Thickening of the blood. I have that and have to give blood every 4-6 weeks.

Its high, but not extremely high.

Ideally you want hematocrit below 50%. If it goes above 50% during a blast and falls back, its not so bad, but if it stays above 52% during TRT only you need to donate and/or reduce dosage of test.

Be carefull with iron/ferritin levels, too much donations will lower your iron and your body will fight it by increasing the plasma factor VIII protein. Increased levels of factor VIII protein ppl are at high risk for blood clots!

Really dont want to change dose. I feel better, nothing like a cycle and ive gained 5 lbs of tissue i feel since the past 30 days. Might be wishful thinking, i def look fuller in my shirt and i feel more proportial. Chest and bis today usuall crap, sticking with inclines for a while. 30 lbs lighter than my cycle weight with more fat and water, but hey no drugs and the foundation is still there. Its coming just a lot slower. Thanks men, guess ill just have to monitor it

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[Capebuffalo]

Really dont want to change dose. I feel better, nothing like a cycle and ive gained 5 lbs of tissue i feel since the past 30 days. Might be wishful thinking, i def look fuller in my shirt and i feel more proportial. Chest and bis today usuall crap, sticking with inclines for a while. 30 lbs lighter than my cycle weight with more fat and water, but hey no drugs and the foundation is still there. Its coming just a lot slower. Thanks men, guess ill just have to monitor it

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What is your water intake per day?

[Mr.BB]

Really dont want to change dose. I feel better, nothing like a cycle and ive gained 5 lbs of tissue i feel since the past 30 days. Might be wishful thinking, i def look fuller in my shirt and i feel more proportial. Chest and bis today usuall crap, sticking with inclines for a while. 30 lbs lighter than my cycle weight with more fat and water, but hey no drugs and the foundation is still there. Its coming just a lot slower. Thanks men, guess ill just have to monitor it

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Your shoulders and bics are awesome.

Dont worry you'll get your gainz back

In my opinion it is better to keep TRT levels lower, so everything can stabilize, and then blast.

But if you just started the TRT it is normal for H&H to blow out a for a while, it usually gets better after a few months.

[Cuz]

What is your water intake per day?

Right now half a gallon. I was at a gallon while cycling, but it was easier to drink then

[Cuz]

Your shoulders and bics are awesome.

Dont worry you'll get your gainz back

In my opinion it is better to keep TRT levels lower, so everything can stabilize, and then blast.

But if you just started the TRT it is normal for H&H to blow out a for a while, it usually gets better after a few months.

Thanks BB, been back at trainin 4.5 months, bro
It comes back pretty fast usually so im not worried, id hate to see what my hemocrit was in my avatar i never even pulled bw i was so depressed in my marriage i didnt even care. Means alot man, friggin sucks starting over tho

[Capebuffalo]

Thanks BB, been back at trainin 4.5 months, bro
It comes back pretty fast usually so im not worried, id hate to see what my hemocrit was in my avatar i never even pulled bw i was so depressed in my marriage i didnt even care. Means alot man, friggin sucks starting over tho

Buddy I'm with ya. We've all been there. But it's not really starting over. Just keep moving forward. We will have setbacks. But we keep moving forward.dont stop don't quit. One foot forward at a time. That's what we do.

[Igifuno]

The goal is to get as much blood in it as possible and to pre-fatigue the target muscle. Then, when you get to your compound move (presses) you won't need as much weight for the same effect. Also, you'll stand a better chance of having the actual delt fail first as opposed to your triceps. Any trick to work around an injury or prevent it from getting worse.

Thanks. Going to try this as well.


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[Igifuno]

Really dont want to change dose. I feel better, nothing like a cycle and ive gained 5 lbs of tissue i feel since the past 30 days. Might be wishful thinking, i def look fuller in my shirt and i feel more proportial. Chest and bis today usuall crap, sticking with inclines for a while. 30 lbs lighter than my cycle weight with more fat and water, but hey no drugs and the foundation is still there. Its coming just a lot slower. Thanks men, guess ill just have to monitor it

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Cuz.. looking good buddy.


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[almostgone]

Afternoon all. Just pulled some bw everything is good except hemocrit....51 points yikes. Only 3rd shot of trt and im still a lightweight...
Its out of range but how bad is this? Should i blood let asap or do i have some time. Not drinking enough water? Thoughts fellas?

51% is not great but not terrible either. I was 52.8% pre-TRT and off cycle for years. Hydrate as Cape mentioned and donate when you get a chance. I still have to blood let in between donations, but for my last few labs, I've managed to keep it around 48%. Also, I switched my diet around to mainly poultry instead of exclusively beef and that seems to have helped as well.

[almostgone]

AG you're a big boy. No wonder you can go head to head with those beasts of yours.


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Thanks, Igi. Too much of it is bf, but I'm getting there!

[marcus300]

Morning everyone

[clarky.]

Morning fellas, going to do chest the day. I'll report back the night.

[NACH3]

Mornin HITers!

Arms today - needed to rest & recover yesterday... had someone to are of

@ Cuz / your looking great man!

[Back In Black]

Morning. Back today hopefully, might be chest. Have a slight bicep niggle.

[almostgone]

Morning, gents! . Still shoulder niggles here so I opted for rumble rolling and crucifix stretches before work. Going to rip the lid off a good chest session tonight (Tues. night).

[NACH3]

Morning, gents! . Still shoulder niggles here so I opted for rumble rolling and crucifix stretches before work. Going to rip the lid off a good chest session tonight (Tues. night).

Where's it hurting AG?(& sorry if I missed it) posteriorly or anteriorly! Does it feel like your muscles are not sliding past each other like they should(more like sticking)?

[almostgone]

Squats don't hurt my shoulder but they irritate my radialis. Only when I go real heavy.

I believe that is the cause of my elbow issues the other week that kept my from doing flyes on chest day, although I could still press. Believe my shoulder pain is mainly poor flexibility and pulling in on the bar.
LOL, I'm pretty sure all of it is related to improving my squat form, but I'm slowly getting there. Give me a few more months and I may need that referral to the place that carries men's size 14 wide pumps.

[almostgone]

Where's it hurting AG?(& sorry if I missed it) posteriorly or anteriorly! Does it feel like your muscles are not sliding past each other like they should(sticking)?

Anteriors. I think it is just my body getting used to squatting again. On the last few reps of a set, I'm really driving upwards as much as I can and I think I'm pulling on the bar more than I should? Believe that's why my elbows were geeked on my last chest day. This past squat day I pointed my elbows a shade more to the rear and my elbows seem fine right now.

[Mr.BB]

Morning

Pecs and biceps are screaming, cardio only for me.

Should have hold back yesterday, it was 2 weeks since last chest training.

[NACH3]

Anteriors. I think it is just my body getting used to squatting again. On the last few reps of a set, I'm really driving upwards as much as I can and I think I'm pulling on the bar more than I should? Believe that's why my elbows were geeked on my last chest day. This past squat day I pointed my elbows a shade more to the rear and my elbows seem fine right now.

Ahhh, ok I see... makes sense! Well it seems your squatting form is definitely coming back and more comfortable... well done and obviously keep doing what your doing... and yes, your a Big Guy buddy

Edit - makes sense what Kel mentioned as well

[almostgone]

Ahhh, ok I see... makes sense! Well it seems your squatting form is definitely coming back and more comfortable... well done and obviously keep doing what your doing... and yes, your a Big Guy buddy

Edit - makes sense what Kel mentioned as well

Most definitely. Kel, Marcus, and BG were the ones that got me hankering to get back to squatting after spending so long camped out on my leg press. After I would read their posts on their squat/leg sessions, I was kind of driven to get back to squats myself. Still a long way to go, but I'm getting there.

[almostgone]

Ahhh, ok I see... makes sense! Well it seems your squatting form is definitely coming back and more comfortable... well done and obviously keep doing what your doing... and yes, your a Big Guy buddy

Edit - makes sense what Kel mentioned as well

Unfortunately, mainly in the wrong places, but it's changing.

[NACH3]

Most definitely. Kel, Marcus, and BG were the ones that got me hankering to get back to squatting after spending so long camped out on my leg press. After I would read their posts on their squat/leg sessions, I was kind of driven to get back to squats myself. Still a long way to go, but I'm getting there.

Your a true motivator as well AG / sticking to your schedule like you do and work is unreal(Haz & Marcus too)

Unfortunately, mainly in the wrong places, but it's changing.

Yeah I'd definitely say your getting there

[Igifuno]

Morning gents.. legs are sore and surprisingly, lower back, obliques, and abs are sore as well. Chest tonight. During the pullback, I've been incorporating tris as well so I'll do them as well. Have a great day everyone.


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[NACH3]

Well I wanted a little boost so i just added some TNE/100mgs of Tren base/d-bol(25mgs) can still taste it lol

Arms on the menu I'll report back

[DCI]

Chest and bis today. Cannot wait to frighten the newbs. I feed off their stares

[almostgone]

Well I wanted a little boost so i just added some TNE/100mgs of Tren base/d-bol(25mgs) can still taste it lol

Arms on the menu I'll report back

Nice. I've got some TNE/TrNE/drol blend waiting to kick off my next blast. It has guaiacol, so I will probably use it just before I have a day off to sweat out the guaiacol smell.

[NACH3]

ARMS
Stretching/RC ex's/warmed up the arms w/tension bands which started to fatigue them lol -- so I totally switched the order of my ex's and WOOW!

Bis
- Preacher Curls off back of incline Bench
2 warm ups of 12 reps 3/4 feelers
1w(50s) 3drops and each had 2forced reps and 2negs - great pump
- Incline DB curls s/s w/f
3 feelers
1w 2drops + RP
- Hammers
2w heavier sets - after second set I ran the rack 4drops each included a RP as well
- Short Straight bar cable curls
1w 2drops each w/a RP / my bis(arms period)! are torched still had a pump 2hrs later

Tris
- CG Bench(smith) slow & controlled even put feet on bench - all tri
3feelers
1w 2drops + RP to really finish em off - racked it short
- skull crushers
2w with a drop + RP
- straight bar pushdowns
1w 2drops w/RP at end
Should have stopped here but
- rope pushdowns 3 RPs

Too many ex's but I just kept getting stronger it seemed(probly in my head tho) -- Weights done in quickly 44min

[NACH3]

Nice. I've got some TNE/TrNE/drol blend waiting to kick off my next blast. It has guaiacol, so I will probably use it just before I have a day off to sweat out the guaiacol smell.

That's earily close to what I have but the d-bol are tabs though. I have 2 vials if Tren base(want to get more mixes like that - even an inj drol/d-bol combo....so today I loaded up and I literally tasted and smell like Guaiacol -- TNE 50mgs/100mgs Tren base/2mgs Methyl Tren and. I felt like I could lift a damn house clean off the foundation

I'm pulsing 10on 10off(through maybe 6-8wks??) what's your thought(Marcus Kel chime in too please)on how long I can pulse d-bol? I pulsed drol b4 for about 8wks and liver values weren't bad at all....

[almostgone]

Don't know about y'all, but I usually eat a couple of ounces of almonds daily. The CVS where I live has the 1 lb. bags of Blue Diamond lightly salted almonds on sale for $5.99. Usually they are $9.99/1 lb. bag?

[almostgone]

That's earily close to what I have but the d-bol are tabs though. I have 2 vials if Tren base(want to get more mixes like that - even an inj drol/d-bol combo....so today I loaded up and literally tasted and smell like Guaiacol -- TNE 50mgs/100mgs Tren base/2mgs Methyl Tren and. I felt like I could lift a damn house clean off the foundation

I'm pulsing 10on 10off(through maybe 6-8wks??) what's your thought(Marcus Kel chime in too please)on how long I can pulse d-bol? I pulsed drol b4 for about 8wks and liver values weren't bad at all....

I've never been a huge fan of d'bol because I bloat easily and 'drol makes me feel like hammered shit. However, the injectable 'drol doesn't seem to beat me down nearly as bad?
I'll leave the pulsing of orals to Marcus and Kel, Nach because I wouldn't want to give you a bum steer as I don't have much experience doing that, although I understand the concept.
My go to orals are var, t'bol, and halo, although I'm afraid my halo days may be over (maybe), I'm considering grabbing enough for a 2 week power run.
Started to grab some cheque drops from a reputable lab recently, but when I told the wife I wanted to go out in public afterwards she rolled her eyes. She says it's bad enough now when we go out. She accuses me of stalking the crowds. Hell, I'm.just trying to stay aware of what is going on around me.

[NACH3]

I've never been a huge fan of d'bol because I bloat easily and 'drol makes me feel like hammered shit. However, the injectable 'drol doesn't seem to beat me down nearly as bad?
I'll leave the pulsing of orals to Marcus and Kel, Nach because I wouldn't want to give you a bum steer as I don't have much experience doing that, although I understand the concept.
My go to orals are var, t'bol, and halo, although I'm afraid my halo days may be over (maybe), I'm considering grabbing enough for a 2 week power run.
Started to grab some cheque drops from a reputable lab recently, but when I told the wife I wanted to go out in public afterwards she rolled her eyes. She says it's bad enough now when we go out. She accuses me of stalking the crowds. Hell, I'm.just trying to stay aware of what is going on around me.

Unfortunately AG, I've not been able to get the drol/d-bol mix or really much of any pre-w/o mixes but I sure do like them!

The reason I pulse my orals is b/c the gains just keep coming and the my stomach bloat etc stays down as well(a lot less sides w/pulsing imho) unless im running var or something I'll run that for 8-10 wks.

[Mr.BB]

30 minutes jogging

Hard shiet, my VO2max used to be a bit better , about 6:20/km pace lol

Still feels good after it, and for will sure will increase my metabolism if I manage to do it 1-2 times per week.

[marcus300]

Don't know about y'all, but I usually eat a couple of ounces of almonds daily. The CVS where I live has the 1 lb. bags of Blue Diamond lightly salted almonds on sale for $5.99. Usually they are $9.99/1 lb. bag?

Love almonds

[DCI]

Smashed chest tonight.

The usual warm ups.

Started with incline db pressing 2 warm ups and then into heavy sets. 2 hard sets as I am on my own I have to split them and I don't thrust the newbs for a spot in the gym then a dd fuck the muscles where screaming hard.

The flat db pressing same as above I was on a mission. The pain was great as it was motivating.

Then onto machine flies 3 med weight squeezed reps great

Then onto db inner chest presses was insane the pain and blood flow I was exploding.

Then abs and super setting push ups. I forgot how hard push ups are when you are fcked ha.

[clarky.]

Hi fellas, did chest earlier. Good session but the place was fvcking mad busy.

Cable flys 2 working 1 drop

Incline hammer 1 working DD

Pec dec 2 working 1 drop

Slight incline db press 1 working

Done fellas, i could barely get the working doing db press.