Do SERMs raise natty test levels?

[AR's King Silabolin]

We do use them to kickstart our HPTA.... and for fertility(clomid - 50mgs/daily)... you have a point b/c at cessation of the SERM your levels will return to where they were(but this is not always the case) many people trying a restart of their HPTA will use hCG to rule out the testis, whereas clomid will raise LH/FSH production(mainly LH and FSH follows) unless you have HMG it strictly produces spermatozoa...

A kickstart got nothing to do with natty increasing lh/fsh production.
I guess its not suppressiv but wouldnt the natty recovery go just as fast without it.
I know its used to fake total test after a cycle to minimize loss while u wait.

So why bother with my question? Cause if its just a kickstart serms after cycle are important but not that important. If u can take the 4-6 weeks in hell.

Meaning: 7-8 weeks after u would be just as good mentally without pct. But musclemass would not be rhe same. Before another 6 weeks iguess.

Have a trtplan set up looks more important.

[Mr.BB]

A kickstart got nothing to do with natty increasing lh/fsh production. WRONG
I guess its not suppressiv but wouldnt the natty recovery go just as fast without it. NO
I know its used to fake total test after a cycle to minimize loss while u wait. Fake is wrong word, it overstimulates LH production.

So why bother with my question? Cause if its just a kickstart serms after cycle are important but not that important. If u can take the 4-6 weeks in hell. WRONG... without SERMS recovery will take longer

Meaning: 7-8 weeks after u would be just as good mentally without pct. But musclemass would not be rhe same. Before another 6 weeks iguess. Yes, you will lose more mass

Have a trtplan set up looks more important. Always

Replied above^^

[NACH3]

A kickstart got nothing to do with natty increasing lh/fsh production.
I guess its not suppressiv but wouldnt the natty recovery go just as fast without it.
I know its used to fake total test after a cycle to minimize loss while u wait.

So why bother with my question? Cause if its just a kickstart serms after cycle are important but not that important. If u can take the 4-6 weeks in hell.

Meaning: 7-8 weeks after u would be just as good mentally without pct. But musclemass would not be rhe same. Before another 6 weeks iguess.

Have a trtplan set up looks more important.

You asked the damn questions I wrote what Clomid does... and wtf is natty mean in this??? You must take the SERM to find out if it's going to work for you hence why it's a HRT protocol b4 test cyp injections or gel for that matter! I didn't go well into depth b/c, and it's my fault, I figured you'd get it!! Don't know what I was thinking! And Why question what science has been proving for decades +?! This is what I mean you find a subject and then want to disprove it - cool - put up some damn links instead of just disagreeing! Your a damn fake; who cycles and goes round and round in circles, & can't take constructive criticism at all!

[Obs]

You asked the damn questions I wrote what Clomid does... and wtf is natty mean in this??? You must take the SERM to find out if it's going to work for you hence why it's a HRT protocol b4 test cyp injections or gel for that matter! I didn't go well into depth b/c, and it's my fault, I figured you'd get it!! Don't know what I was thinking! And Why question what science has been proving for decades +?! This is what I mean you find a subject and then want to disprove it - cool - put up some damn links instead of just disagreeing! Your a damn fake; who cycles and goes round and round in circles, & can't take constructive criticism at all!

You and PS need to read and contribute b/c I'm also fed up with both of your fuckin attitudes

I contribute where I can nach. I use serms same as anyone with a brain. I have tried to point out that they are to be taken seriously as they can have serious sides. I am a mentally stable guy. I get no roid rage, serms have deep psycological effects on me especially at high doses so I take as little as possible. Thats all I have said on the subject and I have been attacked by ninjas. My contribution here is: Serms should be taken just as seriously as any gear.
No more ninjas! Its all good nach I mean no harm.