Why do trans people legally get to use steroids

[Obs]

in the usa you can drive in some areas without a seatbelt. That was fun

You couldnt fine me enough to wear a seatbelt. No way no how. I wear a seatbelt when I might wreck such as when the cops are chasing me.

[Euroholic]

You guys really derailed the shit outa OP's gig.


Euro, quit worrying about the US. Focus a bit more on Whereverthefukikstan it is that you live.

Thats what makes good allies mate. Mutual respect.

[Euroholic]

Fills out arival card. Reason for entry. "LOVE TRUMP"

[Obs]

You guys really derailed the shit outa OP's gig.


Euro, quit worrying about the US. Focus a bit more on Whereverthefukikstan it is that you live.

Yes we hijacked the fuck outta this thread... sorry again. Its just so fun when the conversation just goes naturally. This is why I promote my whore thread. No rules there. Octane you are an alright kinda guy.

[diesel101]

Strange part of this thread is I just found out this weekend that I have a niece that is becoming transgender.
She started her hormone therapy a couple of months ago.

[Octaneforce]

Yes we hijacked the fuck outta this thread... sorry again. Its just so fun when the conversation just goes naturally. This is why I promote my whore thread. No rules there. Octane you are an alright kinda guy.

Haha its all good fun conversation. Moral of the story; the government can suck eggs

[Nephets]

Strange part of this thread is I just found out this weekend that I have a niece that is becoming transgender.
She started her hormone therapy a couple of months ago.

how old is she.

[MuscleScience]

This is one of the great hypocrisies in our medical system. If a man wants to become more of a man, he can't. But if a women wants to be a man, the government pays for her procedure and her T.

Btw, ol Uncle Joe Biden was the singular force in getting AAS scheduled. Against both the FDA, AMA and DEA's recommendations. His rational was that because he "thought," he was a good enough baseball player to make the big leagues, he did because other players were on "stuff," and he wasn't and that's why he never made it.

I will add as I have said many times. A person should be free to do or be
Whatever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt others or come at others expense.

[diesel101]

how old is she.

She just turned twenty years old.
Crazy part is she is 5'3 and very attractive most girls would kill to look like her.
She cut her hair,dresses like a man and is trying to live like a man.
I guess according to her mom they pretty much just give her testosterone shots and drugs to shut down estrogen.

I am a very open minded person and personally I could give care less what anyone does with there life but sometimes I just sit back and think WTF!

[Nephets]

I find this stuff fascinating and I don't know why. when a woman says she feels like a man I often wonder, whats a man feel like. I'm a man and I couldn't guess what feeling I would have to have to lead me to believe I should be a woman. It cant just be who your attracted to or you would just be gay. No need to cut anything off or add anything else on. It cant be what they like to do or play with, because society is becoming more accepting of genders doing what the other would 'typically' do. boys playing with dolls, girls in the trades etc. So there must be something else. Either way I find it fascinating.
like I said before. I don't like the government telling me what to do or what is safe. Its my own call. Same with changing sexes. Doesn't affect me personally, So I don't give a shit. Everyone should have the right to be happy as long as they are not hurting anyone in the process.

[RaginCajun]

This is one of the great hypocrisies in our medical system. If a man wants to become more of a man, he can't. But if a women wants to be a man, the government pays for her procedure and her T.

Btw, ol Uncle Joe Biden was the singular force in getting AAS scheduled. Against both the FDA, AMA and DEA's recommendations. His rational was that because he "thought," he was a good enough baseball player to make the big leagues, he did because other players were on "stuff," and he wasn't and that's why he never made it.

Joe Biden is a bigger joke than Obama! Have you ever heard the shit that comes out of that guys mouth?

[RaginCajun]

She just turned twenty years old.
Crazy part is she is 5'3 and very attractive most girls would kill to look like her.
She cut her hair,dresses like a man and is trying to live like a man.
I guess according to her mom they pretty much just give her testosterone shots and drugs to shut down estrogen.

I am a very open minded person and personally I could give care less what anyone does with there life but sometimes I just sit back and think WTF!

interesting

how far along on treatment is she?

[MuscleScience]

Joe Biden is a bigger joke than Obama! Have you ever heard the shit that comes out of that guys mouth?

Yes, unfortunately. Thank God he will be gone

[diesel101]

interesting

how far along on treatment is she?

I think she is about 3 or 4 months into the process.

[MuscleScience]

I find this stuff fascinating and I don't know why. when a woman says she feels like a man I often wonder, whats a man feel like. I'm a man and I couldn't guess what feeling I would have to have to lead me to believe I should be a woman. It cant just be who your attracted to or you would just be gay. No need to cut anything off or add anything else on. It cant be what they like to do or play with, because society is becoming more accepting of genders doing what the other would 'typically' do. boys playing with dolls, girls in the trades etc. So there must be something else. Either way I find it fascinating.
like I said before. I don't like the government telling me what to do or what is safe. Its my own call. Same with changing sexes. Doesn't affect me personally, So I don't give a shit. Everyone should have the right to be happy as long as they are not hurting anyone in the process.

It is interesting, I strongly feel that sexuality is based on our genes. I was never taught or instructed to like girls. I was attracted to beatiful women from my earliest memories. I couldn't change that If i tried. My own personal theory is that since genetically, the default sex is female. Since a male has a X chromosome and A Y chromosome.

I can easily see how a man can feel the need to change to female or be attracted to other males. Just based on the theory that in the XX or XY chromosomal count, one Chromosome is Dominate in its expression. In a Male, a overly powerful X chromosome which to some extent usually has a leased pronounced ability to express its genes, dominates certain aspects of behavior.

In females, the second X chromosome shrinks and is partitioned to parts of the nucleaus so that it's not expressed. This is set from birth since a sperm and egg meet. All subsiqeant cells are clones of that first cell.

However. It's hard for me to imagine then how a female gets the feelings that they are a male. Since there is physically no male specific genes in them at all. And, no initiator genes from the Y chromosome that would stimulate male like expression from the X chromosome.

All so very fascinating.

[Nephets]

and you would also have no frame of reference as to what a male feels like. maybe its not that they feel like a male so much as they don't feel like they identify with what a woman is....whatever that may be.

[Obs]

and you would also have no frame of reference as to what a male feels like. maybe its not that they feel like a male so much as they don't feel like they identify with what a woman is....whatever that may be.

Hey, I must admit... sometimes during pct... I get mad and start crying and curse my penis for not being a spagina. Only because I lose my sex drive and feel like I need my own personal spagina to tend to.

[Nephets]

Hey, I must admit... sometimes during pct... I get mad and start crying and curse my penis for not being a spagina. Only because I lose my sex drive and feel like I need my own personal spagina to tend to.

im not here to judge you or your vagina. lol

[Obs]

im not here to judge you or your vagina. lol

If I got the operation it would last a week and I would be yrying to stick my c@€% in something and I would start bawling again. Maybe I just need an add on vaginer on my leg etc.

[Nephets]

try this, cheaper than the alternative.

[Obs]

try this, cheaper than the alternative.

I bet it stinks if I dont keep it cleaned out too! Just like the teal thing!

[Euroholic]

With what was always considered weird now becoming normal imagine what the freaks of the future will be. Some people in my country want to redifine the meaning of marriage. Firstly how do you redefine something that it what it is? And secondly If you change the laws for one small minority then you should change it for every minority no? I do not want to live in a place where you can marry a goldfish, or a 9 year old boy.

The laws are for the majority. Minority groups do not dictate to the majority. Not everybody will be happy about it but most people are.

[Nephets]

2 consenting adults. That's the list. No goldfish. No boys.

[Obs]

2 consenting adults. That's the list. No goldfish. No boys.

I will always believe marriage should be between a man and a woman. Old fashioned I reckon. Soon my kind will die off and the world will be rid of my dinosaur bigotry.

[Euroholic]

2 consenting adults. That's the list. No goldfish. No boys.

But who defines what age a adult is? My state your a adult at 17. Even tho you are not fully grown at 17. So if you change the law to suit one group of people whats not to stop you changing the laws over time for another group of people? What if 9 year olds want to be adults should they not have the rights that older people have? See my point. You start tweaking the law for one group but not another it becomes a downward spiral.

[Nephets]

I think that was easy to hold on to when you read Jesus said it's a sin and that being gay is a choice. With less people being religious or at least those religions are starting to become more inclusive, which I'm sure is to combat the low turnouts. I think most people are coming around to the idea that being gay isn't a choose or a fad for kids that just want to rebel. It's the way your born and therefore there is nothing you can do about it and should have all the rites as others born differently.

[Nephets]

But who defines what age a adult is? My state your a adult at 17. Even tho you are not fully grown at 17. So if you change the law to suit one group of people whats not to stop you changing the laws over time for another group of people? What if 9 year olds want to be adults should they not have the rights that older people have? See my point. You start tweaking the law for some it becomes a downward spiral.

I don't see the point of holding back someone's rights because you want to use an extreme stance of, what's next.... you can marry a horse. We aren't saying you can marry a horse and we are not saying children can marry. I think if the government said consenting adults and then each state or Provence could determine what is an adult. I'm sure there would be a range between 17-21, but I don't think it will ever work its way down to nine. Lol

[Euroholic]

I think that was easy to hold on to when you read Jesus said it's a sin and that being gay is a choice. With less people being religious or at least those religions are starting to become more inclusive, which I'm sure is to combat the low turnouts. I think most people are coming around to the idea that being gay isn't a choose or a fad for kids that just want to rebel. It's the way your born and therefore there is nothing you can do about it and should have all the rites as others born differently.

There was a time when being gay would get you jail time. Now they want to let them marry people of the same sex. Whats not to say in 100 years the pedophile could become excepted into socitey and allowed to marry 11 year olds? How far are you willing to progress? You think that sounds crazy but keep in mind not that long ago the homosexual was considered not normal but now they are considered normal. The same thing could happen with the pedophile or the guy that wants to marry his sister.

If you redifine the law so people can marry someone of the same sex it opens up a can of worms. So for the betterment of the country the meaning of marriage should stay the same as it is.

If someone could prove that same sex marriage will not bring on pedophile marriage or animal marriage i might consider it being ok. But they can not so for the betterment of the country the homosexual needs to say no to same sex marriage. Enjoy just being gay do not worry about married woes

[Euroholic]

I don't see the point of holding back someone's rights because you want to use an extreme stance of, what's next.... you can marry a horse. We aren't saying you can marry a horse and we are not saying children can marry. I think if the government said consenting adults and then each state or Provence could determine what is an adult. I'm sure there would be a range between 17-21, but I don't think it will ever work its way down to nine. Lol

if Everyone has the right to marry the opposite sex so long as its not a blood relative and over legal age then we are all equal and have the same rights

[MuscleScience]

There was a time when being gay would get you jail time. Now they want to let them marry people of the same sex. Whats not to say in 100 years the pedophile could become excepted into socitey and allowed to marry 11 year olds? How far are you willing to progress? You think that sounds crazy but keep in mind not that long ago the homosexual was considered not normal but now they are considered normal. The same thing could happen with the pedophile or the guy that wants to marry his sister.

If you redifine the law so people can marry someone of the same sex it opens up a can of worms. So for the betterment of the country the meaning of marriage should stay the same as it is.

If someone could prove that same sex marriage will not bring on pedophile marriage or animal marriage i might consider it being ok. But they can not so for the betterment of the country the homosexual needs to say no to same sex marriage. Enjoy just being gay do not worry about married woes

To some extent i see your point. I to worry that pedophilia or Bestiallity will enjoy a normalitive status. In some parts of the world, having relations with children are while not completely common, they happen and it's certainly accepted even if it's a hush hush thing. The way globalism is progressing and the way everything Western is vilified, I would not be surprised if that practice was continued as people migrate to once western dominate societies.

A classic example is how women are compared to western standards are second class citizens within certain ethnic and religious groups. That practice continues when they migrate to the West, but the same women's lib groups and society as a whole leaves the topic alone due to being sensitive to their cultural practices and norms.

[Euroholic]

To some extent i see your point. I to worry that pedophilia or Bestiallity will enjoy a normalitive status. In some parts of the world, having relations with children are while not completely common, they happen and it's certainly accepted even if it's a hush hush thing. The way globalism is progressing and the way everything Western is vilified, I would not be surprised if that practice was continued as people migrate to once western dominate societies.

A classic example is how women are compared to western standards are second class citizens within certain ethnic and religious groups. That practice continues when they migrate to the West, but the same women's lib groups and society as a whole leaves the topic alone due to being sensitive to their cultural practices and norms.

Its a downward spiral mate. If We allow non western standards into our lands then its game over. People think its extreme to think like i do but i do it because i love who i am and where i am from. Lets face it the european created the world we live in today. Clearly we are meant for something greater then non europeans.

[Obs]

There was a time when being gay would get you jail time. Now they want to let them marry people of the same sex. Whats not to say in 100 years the pedophile could become excepted into socitey and allowed to marry 11 year olds? How far are you willing to progress? You think that sounds crazy but keep in mind not that long ago the homosexual was considered not normal but now they are considered normal. The same thing could happen with the pedophile or the guy that wants to marry his sister.

If you redifine the law so people can marry someone of the same sex it opens up a can of worms. So for the betterment of the country the meaning of marriage should stay the same as it is.

If someone could prove that same sex marriage will not bring on pedophile marriage or animal marriage i might consider it being ok. But they can not so for the betterment of the country the homosexual needs to say no to same sex marriage. Enjoy just being gay do not worry about married woes

The lack of a mother/father in society is the reason for the decline in morality and religion. Funny how in the 1980s one in a thousand was "born gay" and today its one in five. At this rate we will be extinct soon as our genetics seem to be defying nature. This is all my opinion and not to be taken seriously.

[Nephets]

I'm not trying to convince you that your wrong but have you ever considered that the number may have been always one in five but because of society's ignorance or intolerance they were too scared to come out in the open.

[diesel101]

I could care less if people are gay,Transgender,straight,black, white or purple or if they get married it is not my place to say if it is wrong or right I don't care.
The problem I have is the fact that they try to force their way of life on us and then make huge deal of it as soon as someone disagrees with it.

Live your lives the way you want and don't look for constant approval from everyone because your not going to get it.

I can guarantee most people don't approve of our way of life doing what we do to stay in shape and improving ourselves.

I am a 46 year old sexy fricken beast who is jacked,tan and horny as hell 95% of the time and I could give 2 sh!ts less what anyone thinks of me.

[Obs]

I'm not trying to convince you that your wrong but have you ever considered that the number may have been always one in five but because of society's ignorance or intolerance they were too scared to come out in the open.

Yep. Society has done a worse and worse job of supressing them. In my mind that comes with the breakdown of morality and family. The acceptance thing will never reach me. I will always be a bigot. I really like what euro said about tolerance leading to worse things. This pedophilia thing is in full swing. I was unbanned from facebook the other day, one of the first things I noticed... I will put up in a second.

[Obs]

Attachment 167046 this is how acceptance works accept any deviation from what is naturally necessay and it will just keep creeping faster and faster.

[Euroholic]

Quick its time to go rioting guys

Interracial couple bullied by racist during dinner date - 9news.com.au

[Euroholic]

I could care less if people are gay,Transgender,straight,black, white or purple or if they get married it is not my place to say if it is wrong or right I don't care.
The problem I have is the fact that they try to force their way of life on us and then make huge deal of it as soon as someone disagrees with it.

Live your lives the way you want and don't look for constant approval from everyone because your not going to get it.

I can guarantee most people don't approve of our way of life doing what we do to stay in shape and improving ourselves.

I am a 46 year old sexy fricken beast who is jacked,tan and horny as hell 95% of the time and I could give 2 sh!ts less what anyone thinks of me.

I do not care if people are a black or a gay but when they do not act normal then i care. Like the whole gay culture with the fake 6 year old boy accent and limp rist and that flag. Just act normal like a real man and you will be respected.

[diesel101]

Quick its time to go rioting guys

Interracial couple bullied by racist during dinner date - 9news.com.au

I feel this couples pain I had the same thing happen to me the other night in a strip club when I was getting a lap dance from a black dancer

[MuscleScience]

Attachment 167046 this is how acceptance works accept any deviation from what is naturally necessay and it will just keep creeping faster and faster.

This is what I'm afraid of. NMBLA is a real and present danger. I believe in progress and such. But I also don't believe in unlimited personal freedoms. Our culture is moving towards that attitude where it's almost an Anarchien state, but were the State funds everyone's wants and desires. Conscience is a funny thing and maybe a burden for our species. We can't fall into treating life as if it's one giant fantasy playground without consequence.

The argument that the homosexual and transgender movement makes about being born or feeling the way they do while I believe is a correct one. It is also a dangerous slop that those that are born feeling like they are only sexually attracted to children, animals or by murdering people could also make. There has to be a hard barrier that society cannot cross when it comes to personal wants and freedoms. I am in no way comparing LGBT issues with the latter that I meantioned. But no more than even 50 years ago, society would have been just as appalled by gay marriage is it is to bestiality today for example. It was not as if Those people were all raging bigots. It was just not a part of the cultural norm as it is today.