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[AR's King Silabolin]

If you go with a posterior chain day(low back/glutes/hammies) you can do say
Monday(you can use your days but try putting a Mon/third/or fri split on it)
- cable pull thrus w/wide stance focusing on hamstrings/& low back
- good mornings
- deads(conventional or sumo) they do hit different BPs harder
- stiff legged deads
Rev leg lifts
Hypers
QUADS
- Extensions
- squats
- leg press
- hack squat close stance and pump the quads
- deads(can be moved up in rotation)

Whats your take on men 45+ will loose their legs no matter what?

[NACH3]

Whats your take on men 45+ will loose their legs no matter what?

No sir, I'm sure it gets much harder on the body period but... just look at Kel

And maybe just switching things up - upping the frequency(2days wkly) will help shock the muscles into growth again - can't do the same routine over and over without our bodies adapting to it...

[Proximal]

No sir, I'm sure it gets much harder on the body period but... just look at Kel

And maybe just switching things up - upping the frequency(2days wkly) will help shock the muscles into growth again - can't do the same routine over and over without our bodies adapting to it...

I asked this after last Olympia with regard to Levrone cause the +45 leg thing does/doesn't make sense to me. From a PT's standpoint I could see how your big lifts like squats and deads are going to drop off a little or a lot depending on shoulder/back/knee/hip issues. But here's where both your BB experiences can help me - how much of your legs can you keep & attain with reduced squatting and deads? Can you find enough alternate stuff to take their place?

[Marsoc]

I asked this after last Olympia with regard to Levrone cause the +45 leg thing does/doesn't make sense to me. From a PT's standpoint I could see how your big lifts like squats and deads are going to drop off a little or a lot depending on shoulder/back/knee/hip issues. But here's where both your BB experiences can help me - how much of your legs can you keep & attain with reduced squatting and deads? Can you find enough alternate stuff to take their place?

I'm sure you can substitute with other isolation and what not. But you will lose the benifet of the real life application tht squats and dreads offer I.e general power and explosive ness for everyday movement . There are plenty of machines that isolate the glutes and hamstrings or inner and outer thigh or quads. Or are you not able to bend your legs in the squat position at all...so no leg press either (which is mainly quad involved)

[BG]

I asked this after last Olympia with regard to Levrone cause the +45 leg thing does/doesn't make sense to me. From a PT's standpoint I could see how your big lifts like squats and deads are going to drop off a little or a lot depending on shoulder/back/knee/hip issues. But here's where both your BB experiences can help me - how much of your legs can you keep & attain with reduced squatting and deads? Can you find enough alternate stuff to take their place?

You can with concentrated hacks/V's. I was a big squatter/deader , I love them and my routines worked around them. This past year I just havent been able to push those movements the way I used to and my legs started to suffer. The I started basing my routines around hacking and v'ing, supplementing them with deads/squats and my legs grew a lot. I was actually mad I didnt do this sooner, its just hard to give up on the last of the heavy movements us older guys are hanging onto

[NACH3]

You can with concentrated hacks/V's. I was a big squatter/deader , I love them and my routines worked around them. This past year I just havent been able to push those movements the way I used to and my legs started to suffer. The I started basing my routines around hacking and v'ing, supplementing them with deads/squats and my legs grew a lot. I was actually mad I didnt do this sooner, its just hard to give up on the last of the heavy movements us older guys are hanging onto

Hey Prox - BG nailed it here! Rev Vs and hacks are my go to along with fmdeading now also(whether it be stiff legged, sumo, or conventional) I can't lick in to a squat with an Oly Bar... so rev Vs and Hacks are great I'll go heavier with deads & switch off going heavy with hacks or rev Vs but concentrating on isolating with with these movements, as well - the weight stil needs to be overloaded tho

[Proximal]

Hey Prox - BG nailed it here! Rev Vs and hacks are my go to along with fmdeading now also(whether it be stiff legged, sumo, or conventional) I can't lick in to a squat with an Oly Bar... so rev Vs and Hacks are great I'll go heavier with deads & switch off going heavy with hacks or rev Vs but concentrating on isolating with with these movements, as well - the weight stil needs to be overloaded tho

But the bottom line is - do you guys think this would dispense with the idea that your legs can't be there after 45? This was Sil's question and I added that I thought that was the conclusion for Levrone, that he clearly can get his top half back, but he'll never get his legs back. I'm not worried for myself - can't overload the replaced hips much or I'm asking for big trouble.

[hammerheart]

Whats your take on men 45+ will loose their legs no matter what?

Imo it's mostly from andropause associated with aging. My thighs did lose about 10cm - 4 inches with low T... miss them.

You should look forward to TRT if you don't want to shrink and your Test levels don't recover from cycling.