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    Im starting tomorrow. What testlevel are u aiming for?...Marcus and bizz are in the high 700s. I think that migth be too much...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silabolin View Post
    Im starting tomorrow. What testlevel are u aiming for?...Marcus and bizz are in the high 700s. I think that migth be too much...

    Never judge on total T Sil, always use free T as your gauge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Never judge on total T Sil, always use free T as your gauge.
    I'm a bit uneducated on this, can you elaborate Kel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Never judge on total T Sil, always use free T as your gauge.
    I Couldn't agree with this more! There's a little known interaction between SHBG and Total T that most people (including many docs) are unaware. It's very important to know your SHBG levels and your Free T (or bioavailable T) to interpret results and make course corrections. You should always base decisions on Free T and never Total T.

    SHBG serves the purpose of binding to T and protecting it from liver metabolism. So, the higher your SHBG, the higher will be your Total T with a given dose of TRT. That does not mean you will feel better with that higher level of Total T because SHBG also prevents the T from crossing the blood-brain barrier where T is needed to "feel good".

    Here are some real world examples of T/SHBG/Free T labs. I've got many labs results from many different lab over the past 5 years, but I'm only pulling data from a single lab (Lab Corp) so that there are no lab to lab differences to confound the data.

    Injection dose = 0.2 mL of a compounded blended 180/20 mg/mL T-cyp/T-prop injected every 3 days (E3D).

    Total T--Free T--SHBG--Winstrol
    1158-------15-------73------None
    831---------27------20------15 mg/day
    825---------22------21-------12 mg/day
    809---------17------23-------12 mg/day
    633---------21------27-------10 mg/day

    Ranges: TT 348-1197 ng/dL, FT 7.2-24 pg/mL, SHBG 19.3-76.4 nmol/L

    Bottom line is that it's clear that the highest Total T level (from the same dose of T) resulted from the lab where my SHBG was the highest, but that also resulted in the lowest Free T measurement. Then I started manipulating SHBG with Winstrol but maintained the same injection dose of T and saw my Total T drop, but my Free T increase.
    Last edited by Youthful55guy; 03-11-2017 at 11:51 AM.

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