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    Quote Originally Posted by PT1982 View Post
    I think it is easier to recover being younger, but in no way does that guarantee a full recovery. I agree with all you said. Back in the day, even on these boards, tren only, deca only, book only, etc was the norm. We learned from the past and our info is better because of it. Young guys I know get frustrated, and in sure they're going to do what they want, but at least we have a peace of mind.
    Another thing I'll add that seems to go against this board is oral only cycles for a first timer. I will always advise an anavar only cycle for guys without test. I know there are many factors to consider, but think about it. Everyone here seems to think anavar is weak. I've been here a week and have heard it 20 times and tons of old threads. Anyways, while anavar can be suppressive, odds are that's it. Odds are, if used properly, will not cause shut down. A young guy with a healthy hpta is going to recover much better than if he uses test only or test with the anavar. Test will cause complete hpta shut down, while odds favor that anavar wont. Not to mention a pct for anavar is simpler and shorter. I have seen first hand many many times of superior recovery in men under 25 years old with anavar only. Just throwing that out there because it's been bugging me.
    I see what you mean. I was always told that anavar by itself is bad because it stops your production test, and thats why test is always the "base" of a stack. And im sure your right about anavar, its probably not nearly as suppressive as test, but either way there is hpta supression and i think proportionally the gains with test alongside anavar is worth the shutdown compared to anavar on its own. Most oral only cycles are because a kid is too scared to inject. But cmon, what we do is not for the fient of heart! Pin it to win it! Not trying to flame you at all good sir, just discussing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Octaneforce View Post
    I see what you mean. I was always told that anavar by itself is bad because it stops your production test, and thats why test is always the "base" of a stack. And im sure your right about anavar, its probably not nearly as suppressive as test, but either way there is hpta supression and i think proportionally the gains with test alongside anavar is worth the shutdown compared to anavar on its own. Most oral only cycles are because a kid is too scared to inject. But cmon, what we do is not for the fient of heart! Pin it to win it! Not trying to flame you at all good sir, just discussing.
    Do you not see that's a borderline oxymoron though? A six week anavar only cycle world more than likely cause some suppression, but you feel having a test base is wiser even though test will cause full hpta shutdown. I know I'm against the grain on this specific forum, and I understand the concern. But I would recommend an anavar only cycle over a test only cycle always, especially if one is concerned about recovery. If they're very concerned, I would steer them clear of everything, but 6 weeks of suppression is going to be easier to bounce back from than 12 weeks of shutdown.

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