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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Good links! I agree and it will be a hell of a struggle. This is precisely why I am glad I am a tradesman, though I am sure they will attach a chainsaw and grapple to a drone someday and make my methods obsolete.
    Worry not - this struggle has happened extremely often. What happens is we simply learn to do something new, and the total amount of products and services we enjoy daily increase. A small initial struggle for a great and eternal increase in pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnsplg View Post
    Worry not - this struggle has happened extremely often. What happens is we simply learn to do something new, and the total amount of products and services we enjoy daily increase. A small initial struggle for a great and eternal increase in pleasure.
    Beg to differ:
    I respect your optimism, it is something that I am trying to incorporate more into my life. However, there is a likelihood that it is misplaced. A third/fourth/fifth cultural revolution is not the same as the first of its kind. The first time that man that man used fire to forge metal weapons was a turning point. But, when carbon was introduced to the process, things changed (less substantially to those on the ground yet more recognizably to us now). Soon democracy was forged. Sparta and Athens vied for supremacy for half a millennia. Rome was not revolutionary in its incorporation of democracy, yet much more profound was its impact upon us. The cotton gin (1850s ish?) wasn't the first time that automization displaced us. ...
    Man seeks to evolve. And so, his tools evolve faster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quester View Post
    Beg to differ:
    I respect your optimism, it is something that I am trying to incorporate more into my life. However, there is a likelihood that it is misplaced. A third/fourth/fifth cultural revolution is not the same as the first of its kind. The first time that man that man used fire to forge metal weapons was a turning point. But, when carbon was introduced to the process, things changed (less substantially to those on the ground yet more recognizably to us now). Soon democracy was forged. Sparta and Athens vied for supremacy for half a millennia. Rome was not revolutionary in its incorporation of democracy, yet much more profound was its impact upon us. The cotton gin (1850s ish?) wasn't the first time that automization displaced us. ...
    Man seeks to evolve. And so, his tools evolve faster
    The tools are definitely evolving fast but I dont see why we should fear them. I think the whole AI world takeover is bullshit. Computers will do exactly what you program them to do, and they require constant maintenance by humans to keep working. IF that is what you were trying to get to...

    Otherwise all this evolution does is demand that we are more intelligent and useful, because we cant just hit a rock with a pickaxe and call it work. What I see is a bunch of dumb people starting to wane off in this evolution. Fewer seem to make progress in their developmental stages like identity, and suddenly they make a fuss about gender pronouns. If jobs keep becoming more advanced (because less intelligent work processes are done by machines) over time there will be an increase in IQ.

    Whether constant advancement is optimal or not is something people will mostly get to choose. My plan for example is not endless wealth and power, but a home with no near neighbours in a landscape view type of area with a greenhouse and some chickens and rabbits, solar and wind powered, water cleaning facility et.c. I'd have to make use of a lot of science so that I can make all I need to survive, but as you see there is a tip off point to where most people choose to keep going forward, except for a few crazy ones who just want to control others. But if we have the resources and the science to not need to rely on each other as much, their ability to control us is that much less. Like gender pronouns.

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