dropping test out when cutting ?

[petemitchell30]

Fellas why is higher dose test bad for cutting? I understand competitions are different (or at least I assume), but I was under the impression that the water retention that came with test was a result of higher levels of E2, and that if you controlled E2 then you wouldn't look "puffy." Am I incorrect?

Does high dose test make it hard to lose fat? Seems as though it would activate androgen receptors and promote lipolysis. Is this incorrect?

[Marcus G]

Fellas why is higher dose test bad for cutting? I understand competitions are different (or at least I assume), but I was under the impression that the water retention that came with test was a result of higher levels of E2, and that if you controlled E2 then you wouldn't look "puffy." Am I incorrect?

Does high dose test make it hard to lose fat? Seems as though it would activate androgen receptors and promote lipolysis. Is this incorrect?

The problem with high test during cutting is that you'll have to take alot more AI to lower e2 and e2 isn't solely responsible for bloat and water retention. Also why would you want test to ocupie androgen receptors when you could have tren or Winstrol that works alot better for the purpose you specified

[petemitchell30]

The problem with high test during cutting is that you'll have to take alot more AI to lower e2 and e2 isn't solely responsible for bloat and water retention. Also why would you want test to ocupie androgen receptors when you could have tren or Winstrol that works alot better for the purpose you specified

I can't speak for others, but I'm laying off the tren and winstrol for a while because they are so harsh on your cholesterol (among other things). This thread interests me, because my next cycle is a high test + anavar cycle, and I want to look as defined as possible while on it. And I'm not "cutting" per say, but I'd like to go from 12 or 13% bodyfat to under 10% in the 12 weeks I plan to run my cycle, and not look bloated or puffy during the process.

In your opinion is this possible running 750mg of test cyp per week?

[Marcus G]

I can't speak for others, but I'm laying off the tren and winstrol for a while because they are so harsh on your cholesterol (among other things). This thread interests me, because my next cycle is a high test + anavar cycle, and I want to look as defined as possible while on it. And I'm not "cutting" per say, but I'd like to go from 12 or 13% bodyfat to under 10% in the 12 weeks I plan to run my cycle, and not look bloated or puffy during the process.

In your opinion is this possible running 750mg of test cyp per week?

It's hard for me to stay because I don't know how your body handles test but I can tell you a few things 1. 750mg wouldn't work for me and 2. Diet and cardio will gel you down to them number not so much the androgens. Maybe something like clen or even simple caffeine

[Marcus G]

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Fellas why is higher dose test bad for cutting? I understand competitions are different (or at least I assume), but I was under the impression that the water retention that came with test was a result of higher levels of E2, and that if you controlled E2 then you wouldn't look "puffy." Am I incorrect?

Does high dose test make it hard to lose fat? Seems as though it would activate androgen receptors and promote lipolysis. Is this incorrect?

No, but it is more difficult to control e2, and it can really increase appetite in some. Additionally with higher e2 I end up craving the bad shit like donuts, ice cream, and soda lol.