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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Why is no one talking about his IGF being low out of range on all that gear? Definately major thyroid issue and possibly more major problems behind that.
    Either thyroid or too much caber being suppressive on GH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Either thyroid or too much caber being suppressive on GH.
    Yes most likely. If he gets the thyroid under control he will know where to go next.

    I say more issues because that level of dose of androgens should have you high in band or more. A 500 test cycle on a healthy person results in much higher IGF1 and IGF1 is the most important physical lab that reflects the net results of substances to growth. I also say more is why is the thyroid acting how it is, no root cause defined. When you start dealing with the thyroid things get super complex quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Yes most likely. If he gets the thyroid under control he will know where to go next.

    I say more issues because that level of dose of androgens should have you high in band or more. A 500 test cycle on a healthy person results in much higher IGF1 and IGF1 is the most important physical lab that reflects the net results of substances to growth. I also say more is why is the thyroid acting how it is, no root cause defined. When you start dealing with the thyroid things get super complex quickly.
    Ye it has to be the thyroid. But when i get tested at my docs, i hope he doesnt test me for testosterone lol, he asked me b4 if i used steroids, like before i started w roids lol... any tips?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    When you start dealing with the thyroid things get super complex quickly.
    You tell me. My thyroid was 90% eaten out from autoimmune thyroiditis at 24 already.

    Another magical effect I get from Tren is it seems to suppress my thyroiditis. Blood counts improve, low platelets return to normal, no more absolute nor relative lymphocitosis (more neutrophils instead), cervical lymphadenopathies shrink.

    About growth factors, it's also important to distinguish intracellular IGF-1 levels from GH output and liver IGF-1 synthesis, not to mention binding proteins. Bloods only tell part of a complex story but only what's happening on actual tissue is relevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    You tell me. My thyroid was 90% eaten out from autoimmune thyroiditis at 24 already.

    Another magical effect I get from Tren is it seems to suppress my thyroiditis. Blood counts improve, low platelets return to normal, no more absolute nor relative lymphocitosis (more neutrophils instead), cervical lymphadenopathies shrink.

    About growth factors, it's also important to distinguish intracellular IGF-1 levels from GH output and liver IGF-1 synthesis, not to mention binding proteins. Bloods only tell part of a complex story but only what's happening on actual tissue is relevant.
    Ahh, what do u think about my estradiol? Should i increase adex to 0,5mg e3d?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alosh81 View Post
    Ahh, what do u think about my estradiol? Should i increase adex to 0,5mg e3d?
    Don't listen to Sil, everyone here knows the assay for estradiol yields skewed levels in the presence of Tren, unless it's the sensitive E2 assay (unavailable in Europe afaik).

    Yet, it sounds too low, maybe .25 EOD would be much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    You tell me. My thyroid was 90% eaten out from autoimmune thyroiditis at 24 already.

    Another magical effect I get from Tren is it seems to suppress my thyroiditis. Blood counts improve, low platelets return to normal, no more absolute nor relative lymphocitosis (more neutrophils instead), cervical lymphadenopathies shrink.

    About growth factors, it's also important to distinguish intracellular IGF-1 levels from GH output and liver IGF-1 synthesis, not to mention binding proteins. Bloods only tell part of a complex story but only what's happening on actual tissue is relevant.
    Bro that is a tough draw of the cards you got. Thyroiditis is no joke. Super blessed the Tren helps out so much.

    Agree on the bloods. I got such a wake up call with an infection in my urine tract. Small hurdle compared to yours.

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