Does Anyone Regret Going on TRT?

[Oki-Des]

I started AAS when I was young (under 18) and before the internet and all the information that is currently available. I screwed myself up and needed to go on TRT. But, I still love to cycle. Now that I am nearly 50 I rarely go over 500mg per week and stopped doing tren about a year ago. I do not have any regrets as I have not had any terrible health scares with it. Also, I know this might sound crazy, but I think having low T when I was young enabled me to become successful in life as I was able to concentrate on work instead of sex all the time. Ha ha.

[Cupid]

If you HAVE to do it, what is there to regret?

A life sentence??? Owning a dog is more fucking responsibility than injecting once or twice a week and taking an AI - I really don't see the big deal.

Not needing to do it and doing it anyways....thats a different story.

[Kyle1337]

If you HAVE to do it, what is there to regret?

A life sentence??? Owning a dog is more fucking responsibility than injecting once or twice a week and taking an AI - I really don't see the big deal.

Not needing to do it and doing it anyways....thats a different story.

What if you HAVE to do it because you screwed yourself up purposely? And by that I mean even if you cycle properly, eventually you will need TRT sooner than later.

Also, many people jump to TRT because cycling and recovering is fucking miserable and the gains fall off, however on TRT you don't feel like shit ever and maintain more of the gains.

[Obs]

What if you HAVE to do it because you screwed yourself up purposely? And by that I mean even if you cycle properly, eventually you will need TRT sooner than later.

Also, many people jump to TRT because cycling and recovering is fucking miserable and the gains fall off, however on TRT you don't feel like shit ever and maintain more of the gains.

I am a self diagnosed trt guy. It wasnt bro science, it was goals. Do I want to lose gains between cycles? Hell no! Thats not where I am headed. I didnt marry trt. I married my goals. My goals will probably shorten my life sentence as well.
I have never minded sticking a needle in myself. In fact the first cycle I ran I was using enormous bovine needles. I was totally clueless, the injection holes were so damn big the gear would shoot back out of my glute unless I held my finger over the hole.
I frequently reused pins after "sanitizing" them with bleach like the crazy ignorant ass I was.

Buuut I wanted it bad and loved it. I still do.
I dont know if I always will, but I see no reason why I would decide a needle every month on nebido would be to much to bear, when I am to old to cycle.

Shit we will probably have new "super tren" or something by the time I get to old to cycle and that will be my excuse for being grouchy.

[Too-$mall]

I am a self diagnosed trt guy. It wasnt bro science, it was goals. Do I want to lose gains between cycles? Hell no! Thats not where I am headed. I didnt marry trt. I married my goals. My goals will probably shorten my life sentence as well.
I have never minded sticking a needle in myself. In fact the first cycle I ran I was using enormous bovine needles. I was totally clueless, the injection holes were so damn big the gear would shoot back out of my glute unless I held my finger over the hole.
I frequently reused pins after "sanitizing" them with bleach like the crazy ignorant ass I was.

Buuut I wanted it bad and loved it. I still do.
I dont know if I always will, but I see no reason why I would decide a needle every month on nebido would be to much to bear, when I am to old to cycle.

Shit we will probably have new "super tren" or something by the time I get to old to cycle and that will be my excuse for being grouchy.

hell yea bro

[kelkel]

Shit we will probably have new "super tren" or something by the time I get to old to cycle and that will be my excuse for being grouchy.

Since when do you need an excuse?

[Obs]

Since when do you need an excuse?

I am a little teddy bear.

[Obs]

What if you HAVE to do it because you screwed yourself up purposely? And by that I mean even if you cycle properly, eventually you will need TRT sooner than later.

Also, many people jump to TRT because cycling and recovering is fucking miserable and the gains fall off, however on TRT you don't feel like shit ever and maintain more of the gains.

Lol! Btw the fact that I no longer pct... (tears up, voice cracking)... Is the best thing thats ever happend to me!

[Cupid]

What if you HAVE to do it because you screwed yourself up purposely? And by that I mean even if you cycle properly, eventually you will need TRT sooner than later.

Also, many people jump to TRT because cycling and recovering is fucking miserable and the gains fall off, however on TRT you don't feel like shit ever and maintain more of the gains.

Dude are you reading what you are typing?
If you HAVE to do it, who the fuck cares about the reason you HAVE to do it?
If it is because you fucked yourself up, then the question you should be asking is not whether or not people regret going on TRT but rather whether or not they regret fucking with AAS to begin with.

It sounds to me like you actually don't HAVE to go on TRT....you are just looking at it as an easy solution for the hassles of cycling and so you can enjoy the benefits of having high test all the time and blasting as much as you like.....and your posting here for someone to give you a green light that that mentality is ok, am I correct?

If so....my opinion is if you don't HAVE to, don't do it. If you HAVE to, stop being a little bitch and do it. And if you don't HAVE to do it, but you really just don't give a fuck and want to do it anyways....then stop being a bitch and waiting for someone else's approval....just do it.

[Obs]

you are just looking at it as an easy solution for the hassles of cycling and so you can enjoy the benefits of having high test all the time and blasting as much as you like...

You confused kyle1337 with me. He is taking opinions to get a general consensus of what it is like after many years. Green lights come from an individuals decision, he is looking for pros and cons, and not doing anything wrong.

[Youthful55guy]

Dude are you reading what you are typing?
If you HAVE to do it, who the fuck cares about the reason you HAVE to do it?
If it is because you fucked yourself up, then the question you should be asking is not whether or not people regret going on TRT but rather whether or not they regret fucking with AAS to begin with.

It sounds to me like you actually don't HAVE to go on TRT....you are just looking at it as an easy solution for the hassles of cycling and so you can enjoy the benefits of having high test all the time and blasting as much as you like.....and your posting here for someone to give you a green light that that mentality is ok, am I correct?

If so....my opinion is if you don't HAVE to, don't do it. If you HAVE to, stop being a little bitch and do it. And if you don't HAVE to do it, but you really just don't give a fuck and want to do it anyways....then stop being a bitch and waiting for someone else's approval....just do it.

I guess I wouldn't be so straight forward in speaking my mind, but yeah, I agree.

Per my previous post, we have to separate the AAS users in this forum from the guys who need TRT for legitimate medical reasons. Unfortunately, news from the AAS abusers tend to fill the press with the evils of testosterone and make it more difficult for those of us who really need it. I'm not passing judgement, only to point out there is a difference in how one defines "need".

[Youthful55guy]

If you HAVE to do it, what is there to regret?

A life sentence??? Owning a dog is more fucking responsibility than injecting once or twice a week and taking an AI - I really don't see the big deal.

Not needing to do it and doing it anyways....thats a different story.

Exactly what I was thinking.

We all have to keep in mind that this forum is a mix of guys with different backgrounds and goals. For those of us that do TRT because we have a medical need for it unrelated to AAS abuse, it's no different than taking a blood pressure medication. What choice do you have? Pay the consequences of not doing it?

And while I'm on my soap box, I think guys tend to make it much more complicated than it has to be. Most guys will do just fine on 50 mg injected twice weekly. Assuming you do not have other complications like high or low SHBG), this amount should keep your Total and Free T within physiological ranges at all times. Since there are no huge spikes in T, there are no huge spikes in conversion to E2. Therefore, you probably do not need an E2 inhibitor (or very low doses at the most).

I inject 0.5 mL (40 mg) every 3 days. I use a 28G needle (slightly bigger than a mosquito bite). It takes me about a minute to draw up and about 5 seconds to inject. The entire process takes about 7 minutes out of my week and I've been doing this for well over 5 years. If you can't afford 7 minutes in a week, then no, you should not be on TRT.

[waylaid69]

Exactly what I was thinking.

We all have to keep in mind that this forum is a mix of guys with different backgrounds and goals. For those of us that do TRT because we have a medical need for it unrelated to AAS abuse, it's no different than taking a blood pressure medication. What choice do you have? Pay the consequences of not doing it?

And while I'm on my soap box, I think guys tend to make it much more complicated than it has to be. Most guys will do just fine on 50 mg injected twice weekly. Assuming you do not have other complications like high or low SHBG), this amount should keep your Total and Free T within physiological ranges at all times. Since there are no huge spikes in T, there are no huge spikes in conversion to E2. Therefore, you probably do not need an E2 inhibitor (or very low doses at the most).

I inject 0.5 mL (40 mg) every 3 days. I use a 28G needle (slightly bigger than a mosquito bite). It takes me about a minute to draw up and about 5 seconds to inject. The entire process takes about 7 minutes out of my week and I've been doing this for well over 5 years. If you can't afford 7 minutes in a week, then no, you should not be on TRT.

Youthful55guy, what length needle do you use and what part of the body do you inject?

[Youthful55guy]

Youthful55guy, what length needle do you use and what part of the body do you inject?

1/2 inch (12.7 mm) into the upper outer quad.

[waylaid69]

1/2 inch (12.7 mm) into the upper outer quad.

Ok. Do you think it would work just as well if you used the same needle but injected into the glute, or would that result in too much aromatization?

[Youthful55guy]

Ok. Do you think it would work just as well if you used the same needle but injected into the glute, or would that result in too much aromatization?

I doubt it would have any effect on aromatization. Aromatization mostly follows first order kinetics; the greater the substrate, the greater the conversion. If you lower the substrate level by lowering the peek T value, you lower the conversion.

I don't understand though, why you would want to continue contorting yourself to inject such a small amount into the glute? Injection into the upper outer thigh is so much easier.