TNE=test suspension. And my favorite pre workout of all time is 5mgs of cialis and a cup of black coffee. I take it 30 minutes to an hour before. Gives me a bit of pep in my step and the best pumps you can get. My pre workout ritual is far better than any suspension because it does what it's meant to do. Using suspensions are more of a mental thing and don't do a whole whole lot for the workout. That's me being real. I'd take cialis over a suspension any day of the week for a pre workout.