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    I've found a lot of people are mixing up trt for weight trainers and trt for other reasons. Maybe there should be a non gym related Trt section.
    But, no, I wasn't expecting muscular gains. I was hoping to feel better in other areas. Mood, energy, sex etc. I was simply saying I have noticed almost zero changes. Even SSRI's I noticed (in the end they didn't agree with me)


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    Quote Originally Posted by anoxicblaze View Post
    I've found a lot of people are mixing up trt for weight trainers and trt for other reasons. Maybe there should be a non gym related Trt section.
    But, no, I wasn't expecting muscular gains. I was hoping to feel better in other areas. Mood, energy, sex etc. I was simply saying I have noticed almost zero changes. Even SSRI's I noticed (in the end they didn't agree with me)
    Yeah, you got my point exactly. Again, I'm not being judgmental about guys using TRT for non-medical purposes. Heck, I've been know to indulge in a cycle or two of Anavar or/or higher (non-prescribed) T. I have no delusion that at the age of 60 I'll ever look or feel like some of these guys, but I am interested in being the best I can be at my age. However, we need to be careful about the advice posted here because it can be confusing to the newbies when they read posts from guys who are using TRT as a method to enhance their steroid cycles for bodybuilding purposes. I believe they call it "Blast & Cruise". What they often neglect to post are the important details for sustainability:

    Length of time they've been at that high dose
    Whether or not they cycle
    Side-effects & what all they've had to do to mitigate them
    Whether or not it's medically prescribed
    Labs!

    I read the advice posted here tempered with 5 1/2 years of medically prescribed TRT with excellent results. I know deep down that the most important aspect of successful TRT is fining a stable protocol that is sustainable year after year with the MINIMUM amount of T necessary to achieve the goal. It takes time and patience, and as both Kel and I constantly reiterate starting low and working your way up and always supporting dose changes with labs.

    Oh, and sometimes in life you are going to feel crappy. I remember once I though I was getting a return of symptoms and considered upping my dose. It turned out to be a tenacious low-grade viral flu that lasted for weeks on end. This is yet another reason to support all dose changes with labs, they don't lie.

    Best wishes in finding your sustainable happy spot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Youthful55guy View Post
    Oh, and sometimes in life you are going to feel crappy. I remember once I though I was getting a return of symptoms and considered upping my dose. It turned out to be a tenacious low-grade viral flu that lasted for weeks on end. This is yet another reason to support all dose changes with labs, they don't lie.

    Best wishes in finding your sustainable happy spot!

    Ain't that the truth. I've seen so many post where guys basically expect to feel perfect simply because they started hormone replacement. HRT is a wonderful thing and optimizing hormones can lead to a healthier existence, but we're still human and issues arise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Ain't that the truth. I've seen so many post where guys basically expect to feel perfect simply because they started hormone replacement. HRT is a wonderful thing and optimizing hormones can lead to a healthier existence, but we're still human and issues arise.
    Or just feel normal. Heck, it took me two years and half not to feel any worse from TRT. Six weeks is nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bizzarro View Post
    Or just feel normal. Heck, it took me two years and half not to feel any worse from TRT. Six weeks is nothing.
    I hesitate posting this after the "results may be slow" speech, but everyone reacts differently. I was one of the fortunate guys that felt better overnight. I started out my first 3 months of TRT at a Low T Clinic where they did the injections. This is before I started seeing one of the Top docs in the field. I know they used a compounded blended T ester, but I have no idea of the exact composition. I suspect it had a good amount of T-Prop because I had injection site soreness for several days, which is a side-effect of T-Prop. Anyway, I received the injection in the mid afternoon and went to bed feeling my typical (at the time) crappy self. I woke up 25 years younger. It was a firkin miracle! Then again, my Free T was a pathetic 7 pg/mL, so I had nowhere to go but up. I just didn't anticipate such a rapid recovery.

    I should also point out that with their "one size fits all" weekly injection program, we could never get the effect to last more than 5 days, even with increasing amounts of whatever they injected me with and more and more HCG at the end of the weekly cycle. It was at that point I found a TRT specialist (cost me an arm and a leg), but he got me on a very stable E3D protocol that I've maintained for over 5 years.

    Again, my best advice is to take it slow and let your hormones come to a new balance before implementing any changes, and then only with supporting labs. It takes time and money, but worth it to find the sweet spot.

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