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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Most raws that can be bought are underdosed and the little new guys buying them to make it either have no clue or dont care.The way they see it they arent the ones screwing you over selling you underdosed gear, it was the raw supplier.
    It costs nothing to start manufacture and sales of gear. There are advertisers on some boards for labelmaking for vials.
    Ugl's are everywhere. Very few I trust.
    Most of the problems are with the ugls not the raws. Unless you buying from someone where multiple middlemen are involved raws are usually very good. Its the ugls who decide to underdose the product, but its so easy to pass it off on the raw supplier. The labs making the raws have pretty much zero incentive to sell a bad product. It does happen, but most of the time its the ugl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jstone View Post
    Most of the problems are with the ugls not the raws. Unless you buying from someone where multiple middlemen are involved raws are usually very good. Its the ugls who decide to underdose the product, but its so easy to pass it off on the raw supplier. The labs making the raws have pretty much zero incentive to sell a bad product. It does happen, but most of the time its the ugl.
    I can't buy raws. Every supplier I have found is underdosed. But yes they are all third party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    I can't buy raws. Every supplier I have found is underdosed. But yes they are all third party.
    Why would you buy raw materials? You produce your own gear?

    Frankly, I've thought of looking at that as well but I just think I'm getting ahead of myself and building an addiction to gear/knowledge. Starting to think I can cut out the middle man and just produce my own gear in the bath tub.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goalinmind View Post
    Why would you buy raw materials? You produce your own gear?

    Frankly, I've thought of looking at that as well but I just think I'm getting ahead of myself and building an addiction to gear/knowledge. Starting to think I can cut out the middle man and just produce my own gear in the bath tub.
    It is less than a fifth the cost of pre made. Depending on how much you make.

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