Test Prop/Tren A--Test E/Tren E switch mid cycle

[Back In Black]

Well, you plan on stopping the fast ester the day you start pinning the slow ester. The prop/ace will be out your system in a few days and then a few weeks later you will start noticing the long esters. It makes no sense to me.

Switching esters will cause changes in Peak levels no matter what, making E2 control more challenging to say the least. As a knock on effect, if you aren't controlling E2 then prolactin may become an issue.

Why such a hurry for the test to kick in? Why will you feel the need for TNE?

Hcg should be 250iu x 2 per week up until 3 days before PCT starts. Your AI should also be taken until 3 days before PCT starts.

You don't mention a PCT.

[yesidont]

Well, you plan on stopping the fast ester the day you start pinning the slow ester. The prop/ace will be out your system in a few days and then a few weeks later you will start noticing the long esters. It makes no sense to me.

Switching esters will cause changes in Peak levels no matter what, making E2 control more challenging to say the least. As a knock on effect, if you aren't controlling E2 then prolactin may become an issue.

Why such a hurry for the test to kick in? Why will you feel the need for TNE?

Hcg should be 250iu x 2 per week up until 3 days before PCT starts. Your AI should also be taken until 3 days before PCT starts.

You don't mention a PCT.

well said

[MRBOJANGLE]

Well, you plan on stopping the fast ester the day you start pinning the slow ester. The prop/ace will be out your system in a few days and then a few weeks later you will start noticing the long esters. It makes no sense to me.

Switching esters will cause changes in Peak levels no matter what, making E2 control more challenging to say the least. As a knock on effect, if you aren't controlling E2 then prolactin may become an issue.

Why such a hurry for the test to kick in? Why will you feel the need for TNE?

Hcg should be 250iu x 2 per week up until 3 days before PCT starts. Your AI should also be taken until 3 days before PCT starts.

You don't mention a PCT.

First, thanks for your input.

Here's the longer more complicated story. I had to have a surgery on my testicles over 10 years ago, leaving me producing only about half the Test someone my age (31 now) should be according to the Dr.s and BW. I stuck with the Dr's protocol Cyp 200 1x wk. for a while. Then started doing it myself because 1) its way cheaper 2) hate going to Dr's 3) wanted to be able to run higher test cycles and stacks. (for whatever reason my Dr's have had absolutely not AI protocol. They offered hcg only if I was interested in having kids anytime soon).

In the past I has still run PCT for 2-3 months thinking that my body needed a break, but after doing research it appears to be less healthy to be running low T for any length of time.

The last 6 months I haven't taken any test because I had to travel a lot and was distracted. I ran clomid for the first 3 months starting at 150mg and tappering down. It might have helped a little. but with my condition I really need to be on some test all the time. Even eating supper clean, cal deficient and working out 5-6x a wk for the last 3 months. My strength and recovery sucks and BF way up. I'm gonna get BW done tomorrow, so ill know how bad it really is.

Probably should have started with that in the post. I guess the real question that I didnt find a great answer to on the TRT board or anywhere else is

Q: How do I transition from a shorter ester cycle to a longer one when coming off cycle and back to normal TRT levels?

I will repost the question on the TRT board as well.

I really want to run the shorter esters for a time. I want Tren for the LMM, Lipolysis and nutrient uptake efficiency. and even though its been over a year since use. I know my body handles it well.