Swap out Tren for *what* at Week 9?

[Kai Lover]

What's your cycle look like?

Week 1-12 : Minimum dose of Testosterone (about 85mg per week)
Week 1-12 : Daily dose of hCG to keep my balls alive (about 250 IU twice per week)
Week 1-8 : Trenbolone Acetate 150mg EOD
Week 8-12 : Winstrol 50mg ED
Week 8-9 : Clenbuterol 20mcg ED (I've never taken it before so I'm starting with a low dose)
Week 9-12 : Clenbuterol 50mcg ED
Week 14-16 : PCT of Clomiphene & Tamoxifen

This is like a bulking cycle for the first 8 weeks and then a cutting cycle for the last four weeks.

Not sure if I'll take something to 'kickstart' the cycle because Tren should in theory be all the kickstart I need.

[ScotchGuard02]

Week 1-12 : Minimum dose of Testosterone (about 85mg per week) At your age, your body will naturally produce about 70mg/wk of Test. Why would you suppress everything just for a Test replacement, barely a replacement.
I'd be at least at 250mg/wk of Test. The Test will work well with the Tren.
Week 1-12 : Daily dose of hCG to keep my balls alive (about 250 IU twice per week)
Week 1-8 : Trenbolone Acetate 150mg EOD
Week 8-12 : Winstrol 50mg ED
Week 8-9 : Clenbuterol 20mcg ED (I've never taken it before so I'm starting with a low dose)
Week 9-12 : Clenbuterol 50mcg ED
Week 14-16 : PCT of Clomiphene & Tamoxifen

This is like a bulking cycle for the first 8 weeks and then a cutting cycle for the last four weeks.

Not sure if I'll take something to 'kickstart' the cycle because Tren should in theory be all the kickstart I need.

You should have about 5 or 6 cycles under your belt before you run Tren. Tren's a double edged sword. If you're going to run a 19nor, you need to be taking caber or prami. After the first 8 week of Tren, I don't think you're going to see much more gains from the oral. You should just stop your cycle after 8 weeks and call it good.

[Kai Lover]

You should have about 5 or 6 cycles under your belt before you run Tren. Tren's a double edged sword. If you're going to run a 19nor, you need to be taking caber or prami. After the first 8 week of Tren, I don't think you're going to see much more gains from the oral. You should just stop your cycle after 8 weeks and call it good.

This is my fourth of fifth Tren cycle, and about my eighth or ninth overall. This will be my 2nd time running the Acetate ester.