Testosterone Supplementation instead of Replacement - Experiment

[dikow]

Hmmm. I guess none of the doctors, scientists, researchers in product development ever thought of this. Not to mention how long gels and creams have been is use by the general population.

I suppose you're being ironic but that's fine. Could you point one study that tried this approach? Really could not find it.

[kelkel]

I suppose you're being ironic but that's fine. Could you point one study that tried this approach? Really could not find it.

Only for post menopausal women, to be honest. And that's not sarcasm. You're not reinventing the wheel here. I can't think of any doses, mg's, protocols etc that haven't been tried to the best of my knowledge. There are many men who swear by very small daily SQ testosterone dosing as well. If you legitimately need TRT you should see a doctor and investigate why.

You mentioned test boosters, of which most all are ridiculous. If this is only in effort to bump up your T levels and not a medical need, you're wasting your time. Eventually suppression will occur, even if only mild.

[dikow]

Only for post menopausal women, to be honest. And that's not sarcasm. You're not reinventing the wheel here. I can't think of any doses, mg's, protocols etc that haven't been tried to the best of my knowledge. There are many men who swear by very small daily SQ testosterone dosing as well. If you legitimately need TRT you should see a doctor and investigate why.

You mentioned test boosters, of which most all are ridiculous. If this is only in effort to bump up your T levels and not a medical need, you're wasting your time. Eventually suppression will occur, even if only mild.

If you can find the women study please post it here... But I am curious about these men you mention that micro dose with SQ T? All of them failed to get any benefits and got shut down?

I liked one of the T Boosters I tried (Horny goat weed and Tribulus were part of the mix). It raised my T to 420ng/dL but my estrogen, which used to be low, skyrocketed. So I stopped using temporarily.

I want the supplementation because I have symptoms of low T such as fatigue etc. But I don't want to rely on weekly TRT injections for rest of my life and risk having fertility problems as well.

I am thinking of trying Clomid later to naturally raise my T, but since it is not something bio-identical and has side effects, I am more sympathetic towards trying T supplementation, if that worked of course.

[Obs]

If you can find the women study please post it here... But I am curious about these men you mention that micro dose with SQ T? All of them failed to get any benefits and got shut down?

I liked one of the T Boosters I tried (Horny goat weed and Tribulus were part of the mix). It raised my T to 420ng/dL but my estrogen, which used to be low, skyrocketed. So I stopped using temporarily.

I want the supplementation because I have symptoms of low T such as fatigue etc. But I don't want to rely on weekly TRT injections for rest of my life and risk having fertility problems as well.

I am thinking of trying Clomid later to naturally raise my T, but since it is not something bio-identical and has side effects, I am more sympathetic towards trying T supplementation, if that worked of course.

You are ignoring the steroid community here entirely. I know people that give their wive 6 mg of test prop a week for hormone therapy. I believe you have looked at every approach but for learning from the accumulative wealth of knowledge of steroids since they began. The purest forms of this accumulation can be found here.

I notice you are arguing with kel which is admirable but he has forgot more than you know.
If you introduce exogenous testosterone in any amount, it will cause a reduction in Luteinizing hormone. LH is a hormone produced by gonadotropic cells in the anterior pituitary gland. In females, an acute rise of LH triggers ovulation and development of the corpus luteum. In males, where LH had also been called interstitial cell–stimulating hormone (ICSH), it stimulates Leydig cell production of testosterone.
^^It literally converts cholesterol into testosterone^^

There is no way around it. Exogenous test reduces LH which in turn reduces the natural production of testosterone.
You are looking at testosterone as a one sided "controller"when it is in fact a result of controls.

Argue with kel again and I will bitch slap you.

Silabolin'sgreatest downfall was he could not understand LH, or the mimicing of it, by hcg.

Oh fooock my head hurts that was deep...
Damn newbs.

[kelkel]

I. But I am curious about these men you mention that micro dose with SQ T? All of them failed to get any benefits and got shut down?

Not at all. They take their weekly dose and split it into 7 and inject the "micro" dose daily. Same total T just more injections of it. Hence SQ and not IM. I know several that swear by it. Personally, I see zero need to do this and do not think its effacacy is worth the o.d. treatment.