I started at 38 and now I'm 42. I've been on HCG the whole time, never cycled. I take 4 pumps of androgen daily. I started at 250iu's twice a week. My nuts were getting soft on that dose. I then went to 250ui's every M,W, F and that went well for a while. I then tried 150iu's every day and that went well too. I got tired of sticking myself everyday and went up to 350iu's every M, W, F.

My current protocol is 500iu's every other day. I read an article by Dr. Saya who tried out different protocols and found that to be the best. I also tried it and it's the best for me too. I've been on it for 2 years now.