Bugging Out!

[Sh0tsf1red]

So your solution is just to get more guns, bigger guns, military grade stuff?
Cause if a group of say 50, armed with everything from M16s to .50cal sniper and .50cal machine guns, not forget some grenade launchers and the like,
I think if such a group decide to attack you,
you can put up a fight depending on terrain and such,
but there comes a point where overwhelming firepower will just shift the odds severely.

I think it will take quite a long time for chaos to build up to such levels over here. Glad I'm living in a country where room and water won't be a problem.
Food shouldn't either, we produce enough to sustain the whole population.
So basically, as long as people don't quit production,
we will be totally fine over here.
A nuke would be less than ideal, but if you survive,
still more than enough room and crops should be good enough to sustain life.
More than enough water too.

More than anything I'd hope for consolidation of the country during such a crisis, cooperation. And looking at WW2 and post WW2 era,
that's exactly what happened.

1. You can't shoot what you can't see...
2. Overwhelming firepower doesn't mean shit when you have limited ammo
3. Are you in USA? Because food, specifically water is going to be a huge issue. You know all those public water supplies that use water treatment plants? No power means they will be contaminated every natural water source in their system. People will literally shit themselves to death.
4. Crops after a nuclear attack? Try some Fukushima farm fresh greens and let me know how that works for you.
5.THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO HEAR IN A NATIONAL CRISIS IS "IM FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND IM HERE TO HELP"

[DocToxin8]

1. You can't shoot what you can't see...
2. Overwhelming firepower doesn't mean shit when you have limited ammo
3. Are you in USA? Because food, specifically water is going to be a huge issue. You know all those public water supplies that use water treatment plants? No power means they will be contaminated every natural water source in their system. People will literally shit themselves to death.
4. Crops after a nuclear attack? Try some Fukushima farm fresh greens and let me know how that works for you.
5.THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO HEAR IN A NATIONAL CRISIS IS "IM FROM THE GOVERNMENT AND IM HERE TO HELP"

1. No I can't. Someone that has located your position with overwhelming technology can.
2. Limited ammo? That's one reason to kill you, get your ammo.
But not if it would cost more than you have.
3. No I don't live in the US, why do you think I said I even think it possible that the nation would actually cooperate under such a crisis?
It's not from looking at how you US citizens plan to treat each other.
And we don't need to clean waste water over here.
If we did though, I'd hope someone would get power up and running instead of just bugging out. But for sake of argument let's say don't;
Still got enough water. More than plenty.
4. Crops after a nuke absolutely!
Take a look at the size of Norway and then estimate how many nukes it would take to render our crops useless. You would have to bomb places where nobody lives.
5. I'm not afraid of our government actually.
Yes it isn't perfect, but they're not the "enemy" either.
And crops with a tad of radioactive fallout is much better than no crops at all.

[Sh0tsf1red]

1. No I can't. Someone that has located your position with overwhelming technology can.
2. Limited ammo? That's one reason to kill you, get your ammo.
But not if it would cost more than you have.
3. No I don't live in the US, why do you think I said I even think it possible that the nation would actually cooperate under such a crisis?
It's not from looking at how you US citizens plan to treat each other.
And we don't need to clean waste water over here.
If we did though, I'd hope someone would get power up and running instead of just bugging out. But for sake of argument let's say don't;
Still got enough water. More than plenty.
4. Crops after a nuke absolutely!
Take a look at the size of Norway and then estimate how many nukes it would take to render our crops useless. You would have to bomb places where nobody lives.
5. I'm not afraid of our government actually.
Yes it isn't perfect, but they're not the "enemy" either.
And crops with a tad of radioactive fallout is much better than no crops at all.

1. Can't rely on tech, what about an EMP?
2. I meant with limited ammo I think it would be unlikely for an army of 50 like you described to come after and use 'overwhelming firepower' on one man
3. You missed the point about waste water, most water treatment systems are connected to natural water sources.
4. It's not the nuke, it's the radioactive fallout. Spreads far and wide.
5. You probably should be, they are afraid of you.

[DocToxin8]

1. Can't rely on tech, what about an EMP?
2. I meant with limited ammo I think it would be unlikely for an army of 50 like you described to come after and use 'overwhelming firepower' on one man
3. You missed the point about waste water, most water treatment systems are connected to natural water sources.
4. It's not the nuke, it's the radioactive fallout. Spreads far and wide.
5. You probably should be, they are afraid of you.

I see your point, but do you have such limited stockpiles of ammo in the US that a group of say 50 military going rogue during such a crisis wouldn't be able to refill their stocks? Or a paramilitary group? Idk.

Nah, I understood about waste water. I say we don't have that issue here.
Water is one thing we never worry about here, there are some waste water facilities, but they are very ineffective compared to other countries, since we've never needed them.
As I said, I'd rather have some radioactive fallout in my crops than no crops at all. Might shave 10 years of my life, but radioactivity has to be very high before it's "no go food".
But I'd we are taking nuke holocaust WW3 I get your point. We are all pretty much screwed then.

Our government is only to be feared in peace time or when it's not national crisis over here. If crisis id trust em. Not in crisis; they want to take my AAS!

[Sh0tsf1red]

I see your point, but do you have such limited stockpiles of ammo in the US that a group of say 50 military going rogue during such a crisis wouldn't be able to refill their stocks? Or a paramilitary group? Idk.

Nah, I understood about waste water. I say we don't have that issue here.
Water is one thing we never worry about here, there are some waste water facilities, but they are very ineffective compared to other countries, since we've never needed them.
As I said, I'd rather have some radioactive fallout in my crops than no crops at all. Might shave 10 years of my life, but radioactivity has to be very high before it's "no go food".
But I'd we are taking nuke holocaust WW3 I get your point. We are all pretty much screwed then.

Our government is only to be feared in peace time or when it's not national crisis over here. If crisis id trust em. Not in crisis; they want to take my AAS!

It's not that there is limited stockpile, it's what you can carry effectively. Remember, there may not be gasoline to throw it all in a truck.

Speaking of AAS, now that's something worth hoarding!!!!

[DocToxin8]

It's not that there is limited stockpile, it's what you can carry effectively. Remember, there may not be gasoline to throw it all in a truck.

Speaking of AAS, now that's something worth hoarding!!!!

Now we are talking;
Cause that's what's on my mind hoarding.
AAS and medicines! I've always got 20ml extra stashed away at a friends place just in case!
Food and water I'll hoard when I must.
(Water is plentiful, and during a crisis one could always eat the dead anyway.
So those two should be covered, lol)

[DocToxin8]

western military has been pretty concerned about EMPs for a long time,
much of the vehicles and stuff are pretty much immune to it now I think.
Or immune might be wrong word, but not very susceptible too at least.

[Sh0tsf1red]

western military has been pretty concerned about EMPs for a long time,
much of the vehicles and stuff are pretty much immune to it now I think.
Or immune might be wrong word, but not very susceptible too at least.

We are laughably unprepared for EMP, the whole world that is...